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To: slacker711 who wrote (59189)4/14/2008 3:27:36 PM
From: JohnM  Respond to of 543012
 
Overall, would you describe Obama as a liberal or a moderate?

I really do have a very hard time with those distinctions, Slacker. I use them but only as placeholders; not as analytical instruments.

Here's part of the problem. Most folk would consider Clinton a "liberal" whatever that means. Yet she's on the board of the DLC, which considers itself to be the spokesfolk for the "moderate Dems". I think of them as the more conservative Dems.

The use of the term "liberal" to characterize Dem politicians is interesting all by itself. Genuine "liberals" were largely washed out of the party through the 70s and 80s. There are a few, but even those, Barney Franks, for instance, have changed their views. He's quite business friendly with some of his proposed regulations for the finance industry. Or so I read in the NYTimes.

My own guess, and it's only this, is that Obama will govern more to the center than Clinton would, or than I would like. From what I read of his work in Illinois and as a community organizer, and what I saw, even as recently as the Petraeus hearings, he's very bent on finding consensus with a center-moderate hew to it and then pushing it as close to his own views as the consensus will tolerate.

Sorry for the vagueness but that's the best I can do at the moment.