To: carranza2 who wrote (33124 ) 4/14/2008 5:55:03 PM From: Maurice Winn Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217780 Yes indeed, much I do is a oncer. But probating a will has similarities to the land transfer office. A lot of law is just dressing up simple things in arcane process to keep others out. Once their silly games are learned, they apply elsewhere. You are right that fun time is vital and I have always valued fun time since I first stayed outside the classroom after the first week of school because it was boring inside. I was amazed that the teacher not only noticed that I wasn't back inside, but managed to find me hiding around the back of the building. I soon learned that they hit children with sticks and leather belts to get them to suffer brain deprivation in silence and to enforce compliance. Schools were good training to understand that morons control power and they are cruel and merciless. How to handle powerful morons is vital training in life. Schools are good at it. Not only the teachers, but the pupils too! Leisure can be enjoyed now by paying the lawyers to fill in a certificate of title and transfer. But I preferred to keep the $1000 I would have paid them quarter of a century ago and use that to upgrade my house after the children had gone to bed, so I could sell it for double what we paid. Having paid off the house, I could then save faster and that saving went to Dr Irwin Jacobs to build CDMA. My $1 in 1994 turned into about $40 now. So to pay $1000 to lawyers in the 1980s, I'd have foregone the $2000 doubling in price and the $80,000 [plus dividends] which QCOM provided. I retired in 1989 [with a couple of years in the early 1990s working just in case]. So I have had twenty years of leisure. Meaning I have been free to do all sorts of other things I would not have been free to do if I had paid lawyers their cartel charges. Doing the legal work wasn't fun - there's something pointlessly disheartening about the processes. But it was fun to tell the seller's lawyer that we would settle at the house at 5pm on Friday, too late to bank the cheque and quite inconvenient to him there and then in his comfy offices downtown. He was trying on his legal smart arse bullying ways because I was handling my own transaction. He gave in and agreed that perhaps we could settle as I suggested so that our truck load of furniture could be unloaded in a timely way. I also explained to him that his clients would not take kindly to him acting against their interests and in contravention of his obligations as a scum-sucking lawyer to act in their interests and not to play his pathetic games. [not that I used the word 'scum-sucking' but I don't doubt that he understood my message]. What is it with lawyers? I guess they are imbued with greed and think if it's legal [or they can get away with it], then it's a good thing. Mr No Downside Lupin did damage to QCOM with such attitude. I shall ask Google about lawyers' ethics. Mqurice PS: That was easy... first item in Google: <There's another interesting scenario involving a manipulation of the legal process by setting up a deposition appointment across town for an overworked woman who must take the bus. When she does not show up, the lawyer asks the court to dismiss her case, in which she lost her job for making comments about substandard cleanliness at a health care facility. (True story). >