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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (120659)	4/16/2008 10:22:12 AM
From: one_less	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 173976

I was posting in the context of your presentation about waterboarding. Prisoner abuse in Abu Graib prison is well known. There may be other instances of torture or abuse that is not so well known. Torture is a crime and where proof is brought forward criminals are subject to prosecution. We may be able to include waterboarding under certain circumstances in the definition of torture at some point but it has not been at this point in time. "Someone has to tell you what constitutes torture?" Torture is a a word Shepard. Words have meanings. Words may be applied differently in different circumstances in which cases their meanings become different. That simple fact seems to continually escape deceitful individuals like your self. If you are going to use the word 'torture' in a legal context (as a criminal behavior) you must use a legal definition that applies. "Torture has to be understood properly?..." Yes. If you want to talk about various forms of suffering, every individual on the planet I've met so far has lived a tortured existence for one reason or another. If you want to engage in a rational discussion of torture as criminal behavior then you have to understand the legal definition and how it may be applied in circumstance and context. If you refuse to start with that, you expose your own willingness to express ignorance on the topic.