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To: Bearcatbob who wrote (59535)	4/16/2008 6:59:17 AM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 542783

C'mon gang - the left is supposed to care about the least amongst us - in ways other than rhetoric. Caring is an instrumental value, not a terminal value. It's not a contest of who can emit the greater volume of caring. If there's a contest, it's for who can deliver the greater actual value. People so often mistakenly measure the caring rather than the results. But if you're starving, caring hardly matters. You need food, not sympathy. If the guy who cares can't get it to you and the guy who doesn't care produces so much that it regularly falls off the the overloaded truck and lands in your lap, whose program do you want? Oddly, some would select the caring program. It's irrational, but it happens. And it can be disastrous in a genuine emergency. That riff was apropos of nothing in particular. It just popped out this morning. Byproduct of a yesterday's surfeit of irrational position choices. Thanks for the segue. Feel free to ignore it. <g>

To: Bearcatbob who wrote (59535)	4/16/2008 9:22:42 AM
From: Mary Cluney	Respond to of 542783

<<<Now - what segment of our society will suffer most from slower economic growth? It sure as heck will not be the rich. Big business is workers and the people they support. Just like ethanol/biofuels - is it hurting oil companies or the poor of the world. C'mon gang - the left is supposed to care about the least amongst us - in ways other than rhetoric.>>> There is boom or bust and win or lose, but there is a third way: win and win. Create a new economy and save the planet.

To: Bearcatbob who wrote (59535)	4/16/2008 10:39:57 AM
From: Steve Lokness	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542783

Bob; Now - what segment of our society will suffer most from slower economic growth? It seems to me that you think our society is a contest between the rich and the poor. That one will win at the expense of the other. If GW starts to raise sea levels, it will matter not whether you are poor or rich and happen to live at sea level. Bob, we are all in this together. ......The solutions can be as positive as we decide to make them if - IF - we work together rather than go to war against each other. steve