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To: American Spirit who wrote (120908)	4/18/2008 11:15:52 AM
From: Hope Praytochange	Respond to of 173976

The Weather Underground claimed responsibility for roughly a dozen bombings. Targets included the Pentagon, the Capitol, police stations, banks and courthouses. Beyond the three conspirators killed in 1970 when a bomb exploded prematurely, no one was injured in a campaign defined by what one critic has called "immensely bad ideas and dreadful tactics." Ayers was a son of privilege -- his father was the chairman of the utility Commonwealth Edison -- who decided in the late 1960s that violence was needed to transform the country. After he disappeared, he was charged with joining the bombing conspiracy and with crossing state lines to incite a riot. The charges were later dropped because of prosecutorial misconduct. Ayers and Dohrn turned themselves in shortly after their second son was born. They raised Chesa Boudin, the son of Weather Underground parents imprisoned for a 1981 Brink's robbery that left three dead. Boudin won a Rhodes Scholarship in 2002. Dohrn pleaded guilty to a state charge and later served seven months for refusing to give a handwriting sample to federal authorities. She told a reporter that the FBI already had a sample, and that she considered grand juries "illegal and coercive." Stanley Fish, a former university dean who worked with Ayers, recalled eclectic gatherings at their home. The guests "might be academics, they might be people working in the city in a variety of ways, they might be corporate management people," he said. "There was no sense of a party line or a particular ideology that was necessary to be invited." When Obama was asked about Ayers during Wednesday's debate, he described him as "a guy who lives in my neighborhood." He said he does not exchange ideas with him "on a regular basis."

To: American Spirit who wrote (120908)	4/18/2008 11:24:23 AM
From: Hope Praytochange	Respond to of 173976

Beyond Trivia, Dems' Debate Had Substance By EUGENE ROBINSON \| Posted Thursday, April 17, 2008 4:30 PM PT Once the meaningless inquisition about loose semantics and questionable acquaintances was done, Wednesday night's debate between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton got interesting. Granted, it's likely that only the most intrepid viewers made it to the Promised Land of actual substance. For some reason, ABC News moderators Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulos — smart and skilled interviewers who, to put it mildly, had an off night — spent what seemed like an eon grilling Obama and (to a lesser extent) Clinton about verbal gaffes they had already corrected and problematic entanglements they had already disentangled. You know the litany: the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the "bitter" working class, sniper fire in Bosnia, blah blah blah. I'm guessing that public regard for the media's role in our great democracy was not greatly enhanced. But for viewers who kept wading until they got to the other side of the swamp, this turned out to be one of the better debates of the campaign and that's saying something, since it was the 21st such encounter for Clinton and Obama. One imagines they're a little tired of the drill, and of each other. No wonder they were so manifestly uninterested when Gibson pressed them to agree to a joint ticket. He should have pressed instead for more explanation of Clinton's proposal to counter the Iranian government's nuclear ambitions with a broad shield of U.S. nuclear deterrence — protecting not just Israel but other countries in the region as well, such as Saudi Arabia. This strikes me as the kind of big, complicated idea that someone should have asked Clinton to explain further. That didn't happen, though. In the looking-glass world of nuclear weapons theory, a U.S. pledge to nuke Iran if it ever nuked Israel could make officials in both countries breathe easier. One potential benefit would be to lessen the possibility that Israeli leaders, fearing an Iranian attack that might eliminate Israel's ability to retaliate, would order a pre-emptive strike. But is it wise to specify America's reaction to a threat that does not yet exist? Iran, after all, is years away from being able to build, let alone deploy, a nuclear bomb. What impact would such a U.S. declaration have on diplomatic attempts — which Clinton says she will make — to engage Iran in productive negotiations? And wouldn't Clinton's proposal just further George W. Bush's policy of deepening the fault lines in the Middle East, rather than trying to mend them? Another newsy tidbit was the declaration by Obama — a longtime gun-control advocate who has taught constitutional law — that he believes "as a general principle" that the Second Amendment guarantees citizens an individual right to keep and bear arms. The Supreme Court last ruled on the question in 1939, holding that the amendment assures a collective right that applies to the states. Obama's interpretation has considerable support among legal scholars — but is strongly opposed by many liberal advocates of gun control. It also qualified as news that when asked about soaring gasoline prices, Clinton vowed to investigate what she believes is "manipulation" of the market. She added that she would recommend releasing some oil from the nation's strategic reserve. Surely she understands that the price of oil is set globally and reflects such factors as soaring demand from China and the weakness of the dollar. What does her proposed remedy have to do with the price consumers pay at the gas pump? We also saw that Democrats have finally learned to pander on the issue of taxes as effectively as Republicans. Clinton promised not to raise a single tax for the middle class; Obama went her one better, pledging to cut taxes for the middle class. Of course, the asterisk is in how you define "middle class" and what you call a "tax." But casual listeners might have wondered which party they belonged to. And Obama threatened to make news, but didn't quite, when the subject turned to affirmative action. He walked to the brink of a clear declaration that all affirmative action programs taking race into account should also have to consider income — but didn't quite take the leap. All of this might not have been electric, but it was illuminating. I think these issues may even be more important than whether Obama once sat on a charity board with an aging former member of a 1960s radical group — or even whether Bill Clinton commuted the prison sentences of two other radicals.