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To: combjelly who wrote (379137)	4/18/2008 6:16:50 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575565

"You mean the Soviet union had free trade unions?" Brumar, you are the one who claimed they outlawed them. They didn't. Yes, I misspoke. Neither Nazi Germany nor the Soviet Union though had free trade unions. "You don't consider the destruction of international finance socialist?" Did the do that? No, they only tried. "It built war material because they were at war. But the factory was for making Volkswagens and produced some." In 4 years they managed to give Hitler one. Hitler knew that Germany was going to war. So he just happens to build a huge vehicle assembly plant right before he goes to war... Hitler really did create a state-owned company for the purpose of building a Volkswagen: "In 1933, Adolf Hitler submitted sketches[citation needed] to Ferdinand Porsche of a proposed "Volks-Wagen" (the name means "people's car" in German, in which it is pronounced ['folksvag?n]), a basic vehicle that should be capable of transporting two adults and three children at a speed of 100 km/h (62 mph). The People's Car would be made available to citizens of the Third Reich through a savings scheme at 990 Reichsmark, about the price of a small motorcycle at the time (an average income being around 32RM/week).[4] ........War broke out before the large-scale production of the "People's Car" could commence and manufacturing capacity was shifted to producing military vehicles. Production of civilian VW automobiles did not start until after the post-war occupation began. ...... Prototypes appeared from 1931 onwards; the first prototypes were produced by Zündapp in Nürnberg, Germany, the Porsche Type 12. Next prototype series (Porsche Typ 32) was built in 1933 by NSU, another motorcycle company. In October 1935 the first Type 60 was ready. 1935 the testing of the "V 3" started. The "VW30" Prototypes awaited further testing in 1937. All cars already had the distinctive round shape and the air-cooled, rear-mounted engine, except for the Type 12, Zündapp preferred a 5-cylinder radial watercooled engine. The factory had only produced a handful of cars by the time war started in 1939. Consequently, the first volume-produced versions of the car's chassis were military vehicles, the Jeep-like Kübelwagen Typ 82 (approx. 52,000 built) and the amphibious Schwimmwagen Typ 166 (approx. 14,000 built). ................ The city of Stadt des KdF-Wagens was created in Lower Saxony in 1938 for the benefit of the workers at the factory. A handful of civilian-specific Beetles were produced, primarily for the Nazi elite, in the years 1940–1945, but production figures were small. ..... A total of 669 Kommandeurwagens were produced until 1945, when all production was halted due to heavy damage sustained in Allied air raids on the factory." en.wikipedia.org "I think we're forgetting that I mentioned the nationalization of Thyssen as an example of Nazi control." I haven't forgotten. That isn't a sign of anything but the fact that the owner got in trouble with Hitler. Crossing a dictator means things like that happen. It doesn't make the dictator a socialist, just vindictive. Socialism is a: "system of social organization in which property and the distribution of income are subject to social control rather than individual determination or market forces." britannica.com That control can take the form of ownership or not.