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To: goldworldnet who wrote (246557)	4/20/2008 3:58:02 AM
From: KLP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793841

Well put, Josh. And there doesn't seem to be any easy answer. So many things seem to relate to this question: --the ILLEGAL immigrant situation. We have laws in the country against this way of entering the country. And yet, many people, and many who are sworn to uphold our laws, turn their heads and willfully ignore the entire situation. --the Illegal Drug Laws....we need to either overturn the faulty laws, or enforce them. Not sometimes one thing, and sometimes another, depending on the people things happen to... --Sharia Law will try to be heard in this country. Hopefully, our Laws will be the ones enforced if people come to this country. Otherwise, they can return to the country of their origin. And on a different and family level....I wonder how many of us would allow other rules but our own family rules to enter the house and be allowed to stand? Do we let our kids go into their bedrooms with company, shut the doors, do anything they please, watch whatever they please, do drugs, or make them, and all the etcs? I do agree with LB on one thing...IF CHILDREN are NOT involved....and IF the laws of our Country are being obeyed...Live and let live. BUT if the roped off and guarded community is making bombs, or rape, pillage and burning people on our common ground, then absolutely we should NOT allow it to continue! If kids are being held against their will, being raped and used as slaves, what kind of Nation are we that would allow that to continue??? Exactly the question...... The quandary though is how do you deal with a large number of people who have enacted an alternate society with alternate laws?

To: goldworldnet who wrote (246557)	4/20/2008 12:47:31 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793841

Josh, I saw this article, and it answered a couple of the questions that arose yesterday. There is a lot of outrage about the way in which this raid was handled, and also the extent of the action. While most of us seem to agree that something has to be done to protect young girls, we're also appalled at the enormity of this raid, its seeming viciousness, and question the necessity of removing all the children. You brought up the "double punishment" for the young mothers, and also the need for individual case disposition, as opposed to a general decision. Child welfare officials allowed adult mothers with children ages 4 and younger to stay together when the state took custody of the rest of the children from the ranch. Now, only mothers younger than 18 will be allowed to remain with their children once the sampling is complete. The welfare agency will also try to keep siblings together, he said. --- Individual hearings will be set for the children over the next several weeks, and the judge will determine whether they are moved into permanent foster care or can be returned to their parents. All of the hearings must be held by June 5. npr.org