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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (379655)	4/22/2008 12:25:40 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1586843

"It doesn't matter whether they didn't do anything that you regard as "socialist."" It isn't just me. "That's just another form of the argument, "Socialism never really was tried."" I keep forgetting that you have your special logic book. "Regardless, the fact is that they truly thought of themselves as socialists. " You know this, how? "Everything they said and did reflected a conviction of ideology." Now you are tail chasing. What ideology are you talking about? Socialism? What did they do that reflected that? Oh, that is right. Your first argument was that it doesn't matter that they didn't do anything that was particularly socialist. You gazed into their souls and "know" that they believed they were... Such nonsense.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (379655)	4/22/2008 12:31:47 PM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 1586843

Hitler was low rent, low claass grunt in WW1. He might have looked at himself as one of the masses who was betrayed by jews for one but also by the military class, the capitalists, the church etc. But he also was a nationalist and hated internationalist communism where all men are the same, no advantages for the aryans. I think you hit on something. The fact that nazism was created on the fly by one guy with only mein kampft as its ideology explains things better. And i get your point that Hitler and nazis were anything but conservatives.