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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (60718)	4/22/2008 11:53:23 AM
From: Dale Baker	Respond to of 541761

The gift of Karl Rove was to paint Bush as the friend of Everyman when he was, in fact, the rich-kid elitist concerned mostly about his rich buddies and secondly, Cheney's neocon foreign policy agenda. The proof of that is their horrendous approval ratings now. They barely retain the support of their base. Everybody else has figured out what a con job the whole thing was. That's partly why I get so exercised when I see more super-wealthy Washington insiders try to paint themselves the same way he did. Their agenda in office won't have much to do with bars and bowling alleys, once the officeholders are rooted firmly back in their Beltway world.

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (60718)	4/22/2008 11:57:48 AM
From: Sam	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541761

And he doesn't seem to care - that's what I find strange. History will vindicate him, lol. Not to worry--if the next president doesn't really address the climate issue, Iraq won't even be a footnote. There won't be any footnotes. We will live in a Mad Max world. At best. By the end of the this century, IMHO. The methane locked up in the Siberian Traps will explode by then. Try googling Siberian traps methane, and read up on it. Hint: that was what caused the Permian extinction. Last time it was vulcanism that caused it, this time though it should be preventable if we didn't have such an idiotically hubristic class of people in the US who are so opposed to any government regulation and the-thing-that-must-not-be-named (t_xes) that they would rather bury their heads in doo-doo and scream bloody murder that scientists don't know what they're talking about than have either. Ignoramuses.

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (60718)	4/22/2008 12:09:14 PM
From: KonKilo	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541761

And he [GWB] doesn't seem to care - that's what I find strange. For all his talk about being a uniter, GWB was never president to anyone else but his base. And he did exactly what they wanted him to do. Follow the money. So in his eyes and theirs, he is a success. The rest of us can just go pound sand.

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (60718)	4/22/2008 1:18:26 PM
From: Bridge Player	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 541761

Re: Bush popularity poll results And he doesn't seem to care - that's what I find strange. Interesting. Perhaps you found it quite normal, and laudatory, for Clinton to stick his moistened figure up into the wind each morning, to see which way the polls were blowing that day. True leadership sometimes requires a little more than that.