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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (60881)	4/22/2008 8:13:19 PM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 541993

We really don't have a "big" welfare government Didn't mean to suggest that we do. If I did, I would have said "our." I was referring to was "your typical" or "your basic" system, some abstract system. Sorry if the language left room for other interpretations. most of that cost gets gobbled up with corporate welfare such as the military complex... How are you able to estimate the size of the welfare piece given that we contract for and receive goods in return? And what makes you think that it comprises most of the budget?

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (60881)	4/24/2008 12:29:37 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 541993

We really don't have a "big" welfare government when compared to the rest of the industrialized world. Its bigger than other countries but thats because we are bigger than other rich countries. Big, as a percentage of the economy, compared to the rest of the industrialized world, isn't necessary to be big. They have "huge", less than that can still be big. but most of that cost gets gobbled up with corporate welfare such as the military complex and farm subsidies. Its quite a stretch to call the military "corporate welfare". Although the money does get directed to corporations. If that's corporate welfare, than most government programs are corporate welfare because their are contractors working on all sorts of different government activities. Farm subsidies are a better case of corporate welfare, and they aren't the only one. But corporate welfare, and the military together don't amount to most of the cost of government. Most of the cost is in the transfer programs.