To: Katelew who wrote (60963 ) 4/23/2008 11:19:46 AM From: slacker711 Respond to of 542152 They knew they were outnumbered and wanted the other stuff in the bill to pass. I know they did put up some amendments trying to move the date back but it looks like they were just an attempt to stay within DNC rules. Here are some quotes from Geller who sponsered the amendment and is the leader of the House Democrats. sptimes.com Thurman tried valiantly to argue that Democrats tried to stop the Jan. 29 date, and that lawmakers even made a motion to move the date to Feb. 5 but in the end they could not vote against paper trails. It didn't help their case. The DNC members had handouts that included quotes by House Minority leader Dan Gelber brushing off Howard Dean, and the following transcript of Steve Geller making the motion to move the primary to Feb. 5: Geller: "...So the Democratic leader and the Democratic leader pro tem are jointly making this motion, which we will duly show them later, that we tried not to have the election on, um, before (Feb. 5). President: "And so Sen. Geller are you urging a negative vote or would you like us to pass this vote?" Geller: "Oh no sir. We really, really want this. Don't we senator? (sarcasm and audible laughter in chamber). There was no debate on the amendment and it failed in a voice vote. It was obvious to the DNC that the Democrats hadnt really opposed the measure and thus decided to take away the delegates. BTW, while searching I found this priceless quote from Terry McCauliffe.sptimes.com Move your primary too early, Terry McAuliffe warned, and Michigan will lose half its delegates to the 2004 Democratic convention. "The closest they'll get to Boston will be watching it on television," McAuliffe vowed. "I will not let you break this entire nominating process for one state. The rules are the rules." I love politics <ggg>. Slacker