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To: Cogito who wrote (61540)4/24/2008 2:58:33 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542147
 
I don't think we can reasonably assume that an invasion would have killed more innocent civilians.

IMO

Killed more people is a near lock.

Killed more Americans is a lock.

Killed more civilians than the nuclear bombs did is a very reasonable assumption.

Killed more civilians than all the nuclear and firebombing combined is quite possible.

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Lets try a different tact, to separate consequentialism from the acts being morally unacceptable under any circumstances.

If it was an iron clad lock that they reduced the number of civilian deaths, and that they reduced total deaths to half or less, would you still find the bombings unacceptable?

(BTW, I think the reduced civilian deaths part is true about the atomic bombs, and at least the total deaths part is true about those bombings combined with the fire bombing of Tokyo, but I don't think it was true about the firebombing of Dresden (although reduced allied deaths would be true)).