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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: PROLIFE who wrote (121513)	4/25/2008 6:45:28 PM
From: Land Shark	Respond to of 173976

>.BTW, prove one lie by the Swift boat men. ProDeath, for once you're correct. None of the lies of the Smearvets are provable.

To: PROLIFE who wrote (121513)	4/25/2008 6:46:27 PM
From: Kevin Rose	Respond to of 173976

Easy. Schachte lied about being a witness to Kerry's first Purple Heart. That, according to the only two other men that were really with Kerry. Don't know why Kerry haters keep trying to cling to their delusions that Kerry didn't deserve his medals. They must believe the Rovian Rule: If You Keep Lying About Something Long Enough, Some People May Believe You. Yes, there have been questions about whether the wound Kerry suffered that night really merited a Purple Heart, though those decorations were handed out rather liberally. But rather than quoting the two men known to have accompanied Kerry on that mission, "Unfit for Command" asserts a third person was along. William Schachte, later a rear admiral, "was also on the skimmer," the book claims. It offers this account: "After Kerry's M-16 jammed, Kerry picked up an M-79 grenade launcher and fired a grenade too close, causing a tiny piece of shrapnel . . . to barely stick in his arm. Schachte berated Kerry for almost putting someone's eye out." Schachte could not be reached for comment. But in a brief interview yesterday, O'Neill asserted that Schachte had told him, as well as other military men, that he had been on the skimmer. "I spoke to Admiral Schachte," O'Neill said. "He places himself on the skimmer." O'Neill also hinted that Schachte will soon address the issue himself. So what do William Zaladonis and Patrick Runyon, the two men who were on the skimmer with Kerry at the time, say? "Myself, Pat Runyon, and John Kerry," says Zaladonis, the engineman on Kerry's first swift boat, "we were the only ones in the skimmer." "There definitely was not a fourth," says Runyon. Though the two assume they took hostile fire, both men acknowledge they aren't completely certain. But they also firmly reject the claim that Kerry somehow wounded himself by using an M-79 grenade launcher. "I am reasonably sure we didn't have an M-79," Zaladonis said. "I didn't see one. I don't remember it." boston.com

To: PROLIFE who wrote (121513)	4/25/2008 10:39:27 PM
From: J_F_Shepard	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

I think you have it backwords bibleman.....Kerry accepted the challenge of Pickens only to have Pickens welch and make new demands.... Pickens wanted proof of only one lie and Kerry immediately accepted the challenge. Pickens then backtracked and made additional demands not included in his original challenge. He wanted 8-10 year records of Kerry and any written or filmed experience Kerry had.....ie he was welching..... To this point in time, Pickens has not paid up and has kept his big mouth shut....