To: Elroy who wrote (380935 ) 4/28/2008 10:56:59 AM From: i-node Respond to of 1575624 It damned sure is what you said. Your original post to me:What nonsense. He's been able to get himself into the leading spot to be Democratic candidate for President, something less than 6 0r 7 living people have been able to do. If you think that that is not a significant accomplishment, go ahead, you give it a try, see how far you get! He appears to have run an excellent campaign which shows management skills. And he's an excellent leader/speaker, people like him, and he's intelligent. Good enough for me. Anyway you read it, this paragraph conveys that his track record is that he gets people interested in voting for him, and from your point of view, that's all that is required to hold the job.His "track record" is Harvard, a family, and various levels of community service, things which he developed over years and decades. Okay, so, now you're moving to the more typical claims -- that being a Harvard graduate and having a family qualify one to be president. As to "various levels of community service", WTF does that mean? Well, here is what we know about Obama's community service:Then he got a call from Jerry Kellman, an organizer working on Chicago's far South Side for a community group based in the churches of the region, an expanse of white, black and Latino blue-collar neighborhoods that were reeling from the steel-mill closings. Kellman was looking for an organizer for the new Developing Communities Project (DCP), which would focus on black city neighborhoods. Obama, only 24, struck board members as "awesome" and "extremely impressive," and they quickly hired him, at $13,000 a year, plus $2,000 for a car--a beat-up blue Honda Civic, which Obama drove for the next three years organizing more than twenty congregations to change their neighborhoods.Despite some meaningful victories, the work of Obama--and hundreds of other organizers--did not transform the South Side or restore lost industries. But it did change the young man who became the junior senator from Illinois in 2004, and it provides clues to his worldview as he bids for the Democratic presidential nomination. So, bottom line, his work as a "community organizer" was a failure. But it did transform him. What exactly did he accomplish as a "community organizer"??? If you're going to rely on this as a "qualification" for the presidency, you ought to at least understand exactly what he was doing during this time. There is no there there.