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To: epicure who wrote (62262)	4/28/2008 8:31:13 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541403

Bringing the cancer out at this point and in this way, though, may result in more damage than healing. The issues are getting too interwoven with Obama himself, who was attempting to portray himself as uniter and healer. I think I will have to disagree with you on Wright being the right voice at this point. And if he truly had an end result in mind, he should have swallowed some of his personal hurt and not reiterated all the charges that are most likely to get him (and OBama) labelled as a nut- like the AIDS thing, or the terrorism charges. These do not play well in the heartland.

To: epicure who wrote (62262)	4/28/2008 8:39:55 PM
From: quehubo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541403

The war on drugs seems to be a favorite target for liberals. Who do you think the government is trying to protect with black people in jail? The vast majority of crimes are black on black. The vast majority of the people in jail are in for violent crimes. ojp.usdoj.gov

To: epicure who wrote (62262)	4/28/2008 8:40:34 PM
From: Brian Sullivan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541403

And from one of my (distant) relatives: Andrew Sullivan patterico.com After spending months on his sactimonious soapbox lecturing the press and electorate in general, and conservatives and Republicans in particular, about why Barack Obama is simply the most transcendental political figure ever, and any attack on Obama’s “associations” is simply an effort to derail the campaign of a man with “popular policies and a brilliant speaking style” with meaningless distractions — it seems as if Andrew Sullivan has, as of about 5:55 p.m. eastern time, finally seen the light on Wright. But, sometime in the three hours that followed this last post earlier today, Andrew managed to actually consider just what it is that Obama’s spiritual guide and father figure has been really saying over the last 48 hours — rather than simply derisively dismiss the firestorm in the blogosphere today — and now he’s suddenly singing from a different transcendental hymnal: I guess I am late to the party, am I not? I didn’t watch Jeremiah Wright’s National Press Club performance live this morning, as every other blogger seemed to. Wright is not on the ticket of any major party, he is not Barack Obama, and I’m not going to be baited into making this campaign about him, or the boomer cultural racial obsessions that so many want this vital election to be about. But then I actually read what he said: blog.washingtonpost.com I knew he was an exhibitionist; many of his sermons at Trinity, read in their entirety, do fall within the tradition of some prophetic teaching; I can forgive occasional outbursts from fiery preachers; he has done much good in his own neighborhood and his interview with Bill Moyers struck me as defensible; parts of his address at the Press Club were completely uncontroversial and even contained some important truths. But what he said today, the way in which he said it, the unrepentant manner in which he reiterated some of his most absurd and offensive views, his attempt to equate everything he believes with the black church as a whole, and his open public embrace of Farrakhan and hostility to the existence of Israel Zionism, make any further defense of him impossible. andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com

To: epicure who wrote (62262)	4/28/2008 8:53:15 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541403

Was rereading your post and was thinking that when this all started, we gave Wright a pass because of the era in which he grew up, and the psychology of the black liberation theology. Even though he grew up middle class, he still endured all the discrimination, it was all still very recent. Sure, he can be angry-- even very angry-- since he has ingested and preached these things for many years. But right now, with a national turning point in sight, a black man in the White House, a man who was turning the country on with the promise of unity, hope, dreams, instead of seeing this as a possible culmination, Rev Wright chooses not to step back. No, he wants to keep living the hate and anger. Even when it impedes one of the greatest steps AAs could hope for. No, I just don't get it.