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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (26948)	4/28/2008 9:51:56 PM
From: TideGlider	Respond to of 224707

Oh, get your story straight little girl! You are falling apart! If you have medication, you had better take it tonight. People like Obama. They do not like Wright.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (26948)	4/29/2008 4:19:41 AM
From: tonto	Respond to of 224707

Obama likes Wright. Considers him an uncle... He does not speak for Obama. People like Obama. They do not like Wright.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (26948)	4/29/2008 4:20:18 AM
From: tonto	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224707

You wrote very positive posts regarding Wright.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (26948)	4/29/2008 6:05:43 AM
From: tonto	Respond to of 224707

Voters Trust McCain More than Either Democratic Candidate on Key Issues rasmussenreports.com Mon Apr 28, 9:46 AM ET On as series of key Election 2008 issues, voters generally trust Democrats more than Republicans on most key electoral issues. At the same time, however, John McCain is trusted more than Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama on these issues (see national polling. ADVERTISEMENT The Economy Forty-eight percent (48%) trust Democrats more than Republicans when it comes to the economy while 40% trust the GOP more. Those numbers are reversed when real names are inserted instead of party labels. Given a choice between McCain and Clinton, 47% trust McCain more while 42% prefer the former First Lady. Given a choice between McCain and Obama on the economy, 46% trust the GOP nominee while 39% opt for the Democratic frontrunner. The economy is the top issue of Election 2008 and is considered Very Important by 79% of voters. War in Iraq Tracking polls have shown that roughly 6-out-of-ten Americans want troops home from Iraq within a year. However, only about one-in-four want the troops brought home immediately. The gap between those numbers is filled by Americans who both parties have a chance to persuade during Election 2008. Overall, when it comes to Iraq, Democrats are currently trusted more by 45% of voters and the GOP is trusted more by 43%. However, when it comes to the War in Iraq, McCain is trusted by more than either Democrat. Fifty percent (50%) trust McCain over Clinton while 40% hold the opposite view. Forty-eight percent (48%) trust McCain over Obama while 39% prefer Obama. National Security The broader topic of National Security is one of the few issues where Republicans have a generic advantage over Democrats. However, following seven years of the Bush Administration, the GOP advantage on this issue has declined. Currently, 47% of voters trust Republicans more on this issue while 42% trust the Democrats more. However, once again, McCain outperforms the party label and dominates against either Democrat. When it comes to national security, McCain is trusted more than Clinton by a 54% to 34% margin. With Obama, McCain's advantage is 52% to 31%. Government Ethics and Corruption This is the issue that breaks the pattern. Democrats are trusted more than Republicans by a 38% to 32% margin. Most unaffiliated voters don't trust either party on the topic. Here, Obama outperforms the Democratic Party label and is trusted more than McCain by a 44% to 33% margin. However, McCain is trusted more than Clinton, 47% to 34%. Taxes On taxes, Republicans are preferred over Democrats, 46% to 42%. McCain is trusted over Clinton 45% to 36% and by a 41% to 38% margin over Obama. On average, McCain outperforms the generic Republican label by seven points when matched against Obama and by thirteen points against Clinton. The gap between Obama and Clinton is caused almost entirely by the difference on the issue of Government Ethics and Corruption. This telephone survey of 400 Likely Voters per night was conducted by Rasmussen Reports April 21-24, 2008. The margin of sampling error for the survey is +/- 3.5 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence. Rasmussen Reports is an electronic publishing firm specializing in the collection, publication, and distribution of public opinion polling information.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (26948)	4/29/2008 7:31:40 AM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 224707

Psst, even a (very) few dyed in the wool Obama disciples get it: To: Cogito who wrote (62218) 4/29/2008 12:55:30 AM From: ChinuSFO Read Replies (1) of 62308 Allen, I don't think people believe that Obama's views are anywhere near Rev. Wright's views. But what they are looking in Obama is that fighting spirit in him where he needs to step in and recognize that Rev. Wright's utterances are a distraction to the people's concerns namely kitchen table issues. This is not about Black/White church. not about what Rev. Wright said "I am coming after you since now you represent the repressive American Govt." etc. He needs to show leadership, act very quickly and move this nation back to focussing on the issues they care about. This is his swiftboat. This is the Bernard Shaw-Dukakis moment. My question: If he cannot take on his own pastor, how can he take on Osama and the AQ? Message 24542522

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (26948)	4/29/2008 8:59:57 AM
From: JakeStraw	Respond to of 224707

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (26948)	4/29/2008 1:00:24 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 224707

Kenneth has apparently read the Bob Herbert piece in the NYT and changed directions from supporting Wright to recognizing he is harming Obama. ..the question that cries out for an answer from Mr. Wright is why — if he is so passionately committed to liberating and empowering blacks — does he seem so insistent on wrecking the campaign of the only African-American ever to have had a legitimate shot at the presidency. On Sunday night, in an appearance before the Detroit N.A.A.C.P., Mr. Wright mocked the regional dialects of John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson. I’m not sure how he felt that was helpful in his supposed quest to bring about a constructive discussion about race and reconciliation in the U.S. What he is succeeding in doing is diminishing the stature of Senator Obama. A candidate who stands haplessly by as his former spiritual guide roams the country dropping one divisive bomb after another is in very little danger of being seen by most voters as the next J.F.K. or L.B.J. The thing to keep in mind about Rev. Wright is that he is a smart fellow. He’s been a very savvy operator, politically and otherwise, for decades. He has built a thriving, politically connected congregation on the South Side of Chicago that has done some very good work over the years. Powerful people have turned to him for guidance and advice. So it’s not like he’s naïve politically. He knows exactly what he’s doing. Forget the gibberish about responding to attacks on the black church. That is not what the reverend’s appearance before the press club was about. He was responding to what he perceives as an attack on him. This whole story is about Senator Obama’s run for the White House and absolutely nothing else. .............. For Senator Obama, the re-emergence of Rev. Wright has been devastating. The senator has been trying desperately to bolster his standing with skeptical and even hostile white working-class voters. When the story line of the campaign shifts almost entirely to the race-in-your-face antics of someone like Mr. Wright, Mr. Obama’s chances can only suffer. Beyond that, the apparent helplessness of the Obama campaign in the face of the Wright onslaught contributes to the growing perception of the candidate as weak, as someone who is unwilling or unable to fight aggressively on his own behalf. Hillary Clinton is taunting Mr. Obama about his unwillingness to participate in another debate. Rev. Wright is roaming the country with the press corps in tow, happily promoting the one issue Mr. Obama had tried to avoid: race. Mr. Obama seems more and more like someone buffeted by events, rather than in charge of them. nytimes.com