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To: marcos who wrote (68934)	4/29/2008 6:29:21 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Marcos, think of citizenship as a piece of property, which is what it is. It's a share of the assets of a place. Like owning a company. Who owns the assets is what we are discussing. In normal citizenship, the citizens are assets themselves, mere serfs. They don't have ownership. In democracies, there is a semi-transition to semi-ownership but citizens are still serf chattels to be disposed of by the state and the citizen's property is not owned by the citizen but by the state under eminent domain force of arms. Property is of course owned by an individual only while they are alive. That would include a citizenship. A thing which doesn't exist can't own something. But the property itself continues to exist. The question of who owns that property subsequent to the death of the owner is what we are discussing. For normal citizenship serfdom, the individual doesn't own it while alive and certainly doesn't own it after death. Neither does their estate, inheritors etc. But their house, their car, their shares, their toothbrush do remain in existence and the owner is the estate which takes over their assets, which would include their citizenships [maybe they owned half a dozen]. If they died with no inheritors, contracts, or assignation of assets, then the state would inherit the assets, including the citizenships. The longevity prospects of the seller of an asset are irrelevant to the buyer, except that they might be able to drive a hard bargain if the seller is obviously very keen to make a deal very soon because of their imminent demise. When I buy QCOM, I have no idea of the longevity of the seller and I make no due diligence on their longevity. Nor would I care why somebody is selling their citizenship [or one of their citizenships]. Most citizenships hundreds of years ago were nothing more than tribal collectives with people at the bottom of the heap living in dire straits if not outright slavery. We don't have to stay like that. There are better ways of communicating than smoke signals and there are better ways of running citizenships. Mqurice