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To: Ilaine who wrote (34212)	4/30/2008 6:53:05 PM
From: TobagoJack	Respond to of 217661

ah, an easy one, start here: Message 23963966 Message 24451595 and you apparently missed this Message 24520174 about american haperin made in china by american company and its american owned supply chain

To: Ilaine who wrote (34212)	4/30/2008 7:37:11 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217661

CB, This is the stuff political field days are made of.. Nazi involvement and arrival in Tibet Harrer became a member of the Sturmabteilung (SA, or "Brownshirts") in October 1933, when the Nazi Party (NSDAP) was illegal in Austria. He held the rank of Oberscharführer (Sergeant). In March 1938, Austria was annexed by the German regime, as a part of Grossdeutschland ("Greater Germany"). Harrer joined the Schutzstaffel (SS, or "Blackshirts") that same year and was photographed with Adolf Hitler. From mid-1939, he took part in a German mountaineering expedition to the Himalayas, intending to climb Nanga Parbat, the ninth-highest mountain in the world. The peak was at that time within the borders of British India. In late 1939, after the start of World War II, Harrer was detained by British colonial authorities as an enemy alien, and interned at Dehradun, along with 1,000 other enemy aliens. He escaped on May 10, 1944, with Peter Aufschnaiter and two Germans, Hans Kopp and Bruno Treipel. They considered heading for Goa, at that time a Portuguese colony and therefore a neutral country, but decided that it was too far away. They transited Mussoorie and Landour, forded the Aglar river at Thatyur, crossed the Nag Tibba range via Deolsari, descended to Uttarkashi and eventually passed Harsil, Bhaironghati and Nelang. On May 17, 1944, they crossed the Tsang Chok-la Pass (5,896 metres or 19,350 feet) and entered Tibet. (see editable map ) During the making of the film, Seven Years in Tibet, Harrer's Nazi past was revealed by reporters for the German magazine Stern. He said that his membership in the party had been a "stupid mistake". [edit] Post-war years After traversing southwestern Tibet and stopping for extended periods in various towns, Harrer and Aufschnaiter entered Lhasa in February 1946. Kopp and Treipel had gone their separate ways, but Harrer and Aufschnaiter would remain in Tibet for a total of almost seven years. Harrer became a friend of the young Dalai Lama Tenzin Gyatso, who had summoned him to the Potala Palace after having seen him repeatedly in the streets below the palace through his telescope. Harrer taught the Dalai Lama (who was eleven years old when they met) much about the outside world and effectively served as his tutor. The Dalai Lama has often credited Harrer's later writings about Tibet as having helped focus international attention on the plight of the Tibetan people after Communist Chinese control. After the Communist army took over control in Tibet in 1950, Harrer returned to Austria where he documented his experiences in the books Seven Years in Tibet and Lost Lhasa. Seven Years in Tibet was translated into 53 languages, a best seller in the United States in 1954,[2] sold three million copies and was the basis of the 1997 film of the same title.[3] He also took part in a number of ethnographic as well as mountaineering expeditions: Alaska, Andes, Ruwenzori (Mountains of the Moon) in Africa. Harrer recorded first ascents of Mount Deborah and Mount Hunter, Alaska, in 1954. In 1962 he was the leader of the team of four climbers who made the first ascent of the Carstensz Pyramid (Puncak Jayadikesuma) in western New Guinea, the highest peak in Oceania. Mr. Harrer, who became a champion golfer in his later years, wrote more than 20 books about his adventures, some including photographs considered to be among the best evidence of traditional Tibetan culture. He made about 40 documentary films and founded a museum about Tibet in Austria. Harrer died on January 7, 2006 in Friesach, Austria at the age of 93.[2] So who knows what ideas he espoused to the young Dalai Lama.. and how the DL was molded. He was young and impressionable.. Good friend of Hitler... doesn't appear to be the case.. OTOH his Nazi past is another of those inconvenient truths .. a stupid mistake he says all the way from not just party member but Brownshirt Sergeant and then joining the SS.. sounds at best unsavory.. Seems he spent the war in a camp for undesirables.. The debate on returning Tibet is not much different than giving back NA to the First Nations... (I know THAT'S DIFFERENT :O) besides if we all packed up the Casinos would be empty ... and besides in my case where the heck do I go ? At best it seems the DL got poor advice on picking friends.. en.wikipedia.org Then again Wiki is not foolproof either... The Black Swan There is also this site but it's so full of hyperbole that it cannot be taken seriously ... newspiritualbible.com