To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (381927 ) 5/1/2008 1:19:22 PM From: i-node Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1572763 These days, however, I see lots of people trying to foster the notion that things couldn't possibly get worse. "Worst since the Great Depression." "Worse than Vietnam." "As bad as the Nazis." I have heard some people whom I greatly respect -- both for their intellect and for their knowledge of the ME and world events in general -- make the same kinds of remarks. It is not like tejek, MM, or other extremist partisans here saying it -- questioning the administration's competence, when it comes from a nonpartisan, exceptionally knowledgeable person, has effect with me. Clearly, there have been problems with the execution of the war that shouldn't have happened. At the same time, there can be legitimate differences on whether we should have gone to war in the first place, the importance of the US being willing to "go it alone", and for that matter, the entire role of the government in defending us. For someone, e.g., Z, to say that 9/11 was a lucky hit, or that we have no business having bases in other countries, or that we are fighting for "nothing" in Iraq, reflects a total lack of understanding of the world and human nature IMO. With all the problems, it is still clear to me that Gore or Kerry would have been a HUGE disaster as a president. And, I don't subscribe to the belief that one can judge this president at this point in time. It was easy to see that Carter was a disaster when it happened. But it is not easy to establish whether Bush's actions have been right or wrong at this point -- it will be 10, 20, 30 years down the road before the facts are in to allow formation of a real opinion. To judge Bush today is much like judging a defendant halfway through the trial. You just can't do it and be assured of reaching a reasonable outcome.