To: Whitebeard who wrote (248464 ) 5/2/2008 2:20:11 AM From: KLP Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793923 What you (and all of us) are hearing is mostly a lot of cr*p from people who are either uneducated, or unwilling to do any research into the state of THEIR affairs. PLUS the antique media NYT, WaPo, AP, etc etc are doing everything they can to make people think that it is just "terrible" outside economy-wise. Look at ALL the charts for the economy, and you will see that in Jan of 2000, things appeared somewhat rosy. They weren't...as a recruiter, our National Industry publications KNEW and SAID outloud they weren't. By May of 2000, things are heading south in a large way. (Don't believe me, go look at the economic charts for March of 2000 forward).... THIS IS BEFORE THE NATIONAL ELECTION and Clinton is still in the WH. By Nov 2000, things are definitely not good....then we had the Dems and all their stupidity testing the courts, etc....by Jan 20, the US was in trouble, and Bush was just starting the job that day. The tech bubble and the wild go-go days of the stock market had burst in March of 2000. Then, in 2000, we have the China and the US plane incident. Then we have 9-11................ Bush has been in office exactly 8 1/2 months. People have very very short memories, especially if they are young, and have no experience in actually having to put food on the table and pay the bills in a rough economy. Many of these people would simply have perished during the Depression. Many of the Depression folks were still living on farms and knew how to work. They could grow their own crops, but much of the land had huge droughts. But they worked on the farms and in the cities. They did not have to have new shoes nor a new hat or a new dress every week, or even every month, and sometimes not even every year. They didn't have cell phones, computers, TV, blackberries, DVD's, or the newest latest greatest SUV, and a Starbucks every day or two... The people in the rust belt are still in the rust belt, when it was called the rust belt in the 1980's, and many of them haven't retrained themselves to do another type of work. They haven't moved to find other work. I know....my husband worked for a couple of firms located in OH, MI and IL... Many of these people have either forgotten nor never knew that technology took them over. By 1981, Gates had begun his Microsoft, and they were starting to become noticed. Computers and automated equipment have taken the jobs away that they did before. Typewriters are no more...(well, barely)....Supplies for those machines are in museums now (white out, ribbons, carbon paper, etc) And that's just in the last 25 years. Hundreds of thousands of new jobs and companies have been created by sheer grit of the people who started them. Cars have gone from about $3,000 to now a middle of the pack Chev is over $30,000.....Labor unions have asked and received more salaries and benefits...and by doing so continually, put many companies out of business. So what are the people who worked for those companies doing to better themselves? Many of them are standing holding out their hands, and expecting the Daddy Government to bring in the bacon. Wrong answer. Most of us, including my hubby and I, help others wherever possible....BUT we do expect them to help themselves as well.