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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (21426)	5/2/2008 11:11:16 PM
From: neolib	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 36917

Wharf Rat, have you seen the Nature paper regarding modeling the effects of the Atlantic Oscillation on GW? I'm trying to figure out how the sounds bites (no warming for a decade) correlate with they graph: This is from the BBC report on the article. The green line would appear to be their new result. Not clear what the "old" black line is (whose model?). The glaring problem is that they don't show a current decade of no warming in either. The green model shown 15 years of little warming in 1985-2000, but nothing around 2008 +/- decade is similiarly flat. So why the claim? Their model in fact shows a short flat to 2010, which BTW, is what a number of others have been claiming as well. Perhaps they are claiming that the gap between measured and their new model will close, so that measured trends down. That would given them a decade of no warming. But if so, then they should explain why they a mixing measured & modelled, which is truly odd. Further, why has their model diverged so much for the last decade from the measured? I assume realclimate will post something on this shortly. Perhaps they will explain the odd graph.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (21426)	5/3/2008 3:30:09 AM
From: average joe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36917

You should really have a machine gun so that when anybody questions your loyalty to global warming or peak oil or anything that does not exist you can just blast them to smithereens. Being a mystic of muscle is the only way to get your point across because science does not support global warming or peak oil. "The good, say the mystics of muscle, is Society - a thing which they define as an organism that possesses no physical form, a super-being embodied in no one in particular and everyone in general except yourself.... The purpose of man's life, say both, is to become an abject zombie who serves a purpose he does not know, for reasons he is not to question." -Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, 1957