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To: Cogito who wrote (63260)	5/3/2008 9:09:14 PM
From: KonKilo	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542912

Yes, you absolutely can have either one without the other. It's easier to find examples of rhythm without melody than of melody without rhythm, but I could probably find examples of both types of music in my music collection. A perfect example of rhythm without melody is a snare drum solo, hopefully a brief one. <g> I'm wracking my brain trying to think of a melody without rhythm; it would have to change pitch to be a melody and if it does that, it has a rhythm implied, no matter how rudimentary. Perhaps a single note that bends into the subsequent pitches might fit the definition. I would also say that it's possible to create music that has neither one, but that's a tough trick, and it wouldn't sound like music to everyone. Philip Glass wrote a piece called 4:33 in which the pianist sat upright on his bench, stared intently at the sheet music, occasionally turned a page, then got up and bowed to the audience, never having played a note. The performance lasted four minutes and thirty-three seconds.

To: Cogito who wrote (63260)	5/3/2008 9:35:25 PM
From: KonKilo	Respond to of 542912

OT I would also say that it's possible to create music that has neither one, but that's a tough trick, and it wouldn't sound like music to everyone. Aleatoric music, in which the performers play random notes at random times, would also qualify. Think of the old AC/DC song TNT, where the pulse quickens as it rises in pitch, culminating in the "explosion" of random sounds. Bernstein's Mass has an incredible section that sounds random, but is actually scored, where the choir shouts short notes, resulting in an effect that resembles the barking of wild dogs. It will give you chills up your spine to hear it. Here is a much more tonal section, with a solo flute imitating birdsong, followed by solo singers, then the full choir: youtube.com