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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (21450)5/4/2008 12:58:06 AM
From: Snowshoe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 36917
 
Natural gas liquids (propane, butane, etc) are extremely useful. I used to drive a propane-powered forklift truck, and propane can no doubt be used to power a small car. But propane is NOT oil, so if the CIBC analysis is credible then the shift away from oil may have begun. Here are excerpts from the CIBC report:

While the International Energy Agency (IEA) estimates
continue to peg current oil production at around
86 mn bbl/day, over 9% of this daily production is not oil
at all but rather, natural gas liquids (NGL). While natural
gas liquids such as propane and butane are valuable
hydrocarbons in their own right, they are not a viable
substitute for oil. Neither can be economically used as
a feedstock for gasoline, or diesel. Propane is used as
a transport fuel, but in less than 2% of all the motor
vehicles in the world. Hence, increases in the production
of natural gas liquids cannot satisfy steadily growing
global demand for gasoline and diesel, as car ownership
rates in BRIC countries, and other parts of the developing
world take off.

The inability of existing supply sources to meet that
demand growth has been highlighted recently by the
fact that virtually all of the increase in so-called oil has
been in these other hydrocarbons, which come largely
from natural gas and are ill-suited for gasoline and
diesel production. The ratio of natural gas liquids to total
“oil” production has been rising steadily and is likely to
continue to rise for the foreseeable future. Whereas these
hydrocarbons represented only about 4% of total oil
production back in the 1970s, they are likely to account
for over 10% of total production by 2012.

The increasing ratio is coincident with accelerating
depletion rates in many of the world’s largest and most
mature oil fields. Beyond methane which is what the
home consumer burns, natural gas at the wellhead
contains a range of readily liquefiable gases, which
agencies like the IEA have traditionally included in total oil
supply. These products—propane and butane, along with
smaller amounts of pentanes, hexanes and heptanes—are
removed at specialized upstream processing facilities, in
part to expedite movement of the treated gas through
the pipeline distribution network.

While natural gas can occur on its own, much of the
world’s natural gas is “associated” gas—found together
with oil. As an oil field matures, the resulting loss of
reservoir pressure releases dissolved natural gas. The
released gas forms an expanding cap over many mature
oil fields, resulting in a rising ratio of natural gas to oil
and hence, a rising ratio of natural gas liquids to oil
production. This is precisely what is occurring in rapidly
depleting fields like Mexico’s Cantarell.


research.cibcwm.com



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (21450)5/4/2008 10:20:19 AM
From: maceng2  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 36917
 
But wait until oil gets back to $30 or $40 a barrel

Can't see that happening this time around. The industrial revolution occurring in China, India and elsewhere could only be stopped by very high energy costs.

Won't happen even in a recession scenario.

Your alternative energy solutions could have a chance to be successful this time around perhaps?