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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (63492)5/5/2008 12:19:53 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 542058
 
Why do you dismiss off hand those things I keep bringing up that you can place as advantages of renewable energy?

I didn't mean to be dismissive of anything. I typically treat as distractions what is not on the main line of a point until it's made. Now that we're clear on one thing, I'll look at whatever you like.

Do you want to make everything a money issue - ala an Ayn Rand? If so then Bush was sure your man.

Now there's a gratuitous distraction! And entirely off base, well, the Bush part, anyway. I could come back with tax and spend liberal quack, quack, quack and what's the point of that.

I want a better world. I have kids and I think we should be ashamed for the problems we heap upon future Americans - economic, political and environmental. perhaps we should just agree we have differing priorities.

My priorities don't differ from yours, generally, but I would also be explicitly ashamed of passing along debt and the lost opportunity of bad choices.

Sometimes when I discuss with people I get the impression that they think money grows on trees, that we can afford to do everything, that we don't have to allocate resources carefully. You're not one of them, are you? If not, then it seems that you would be equally interested in the money issue.

we are right now working towards a GW solution.

I don't think we are working towards a GW solution, at least not effectively. We have not yet even defined the solution. We're just doing some ad hoc paddling at the margins in a general direction that we think might help with a future GW problem.

The escalating cost of allergies and asthma in children are real cost to society - to the welfare of Americans

I posted something earlier about the early release of convicts. Crime is a real cost to society, too. Every dime the government spends on GW is a dime not spent on reducing crime or some other cost to society. So you're trading off assault and battery or illiteracy or something else for asthma relief. Kids suffer either way. I'm not questioning that choice, only that we fall into it rather than deciding on priorities directly.



To: Steve Lokness who wrote (63492)5/6/2008 6:38:36 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 542058
 
Do you want to make everything a money issue - ala an Ayn Rand? If so then Bush was sure your man.

Bush as a Randian/Objectivist? Or even someone who would be the ideal candidate for objectivists (or any form of libertarians or anarcho-capitalists)??

What a bizarre thought.