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To: TigerPaw who wrote (77523)5/5/2008 4:08:12 PM
From: LTK007  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
regards weatherman, this old post of mine ends with the quote.
i repost just so i can irritate the usual suspects. i will dedicate it to Harry Bayer and that longshort, fellow.
They are virtually the same in my book.
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In my attack on the herd , that is, the not caring or not paying attention or for their slopping up propaganda i am finding another group and its' ranks are building in number, these are the ones that feel a pox on all their houses and are pulling into a shell turtle style on having had the revelation their views will never be heard that all is now full of the sound and the furious Bull Sh-t signifying nothing.

They just now are trying to be good people within their own life and tune out the world out as their bitter and quite real experiences has taught them a hard lesson, that is, to be involved in politics in this world is to be involved in a farce.(Such a decision of withdrawal is perfectly compatible with the rights of individuality, and should be respected by those chanters of "stay involved' in this BS, please!)

Where they 4 years ago were charged up against say the Iraq War, they have gone silent because they are gone through all the time since the 2004 election only to see that their vote was disrespected to an extreme and to a defiling degree.

The horror of the democratic party's betrayal has done so much dreadful damage to the the democratic party that i will say 20% that got out and voted for the lesser evil of two terrible picks, and voted for Kerry; will not vote for either presidential candidate, they sense the failure of democracy and learned the brutal lesson in trying to believe we actually have one.

These retreating voters will include all those that have loyalty to Ron Paul and/or Dennis Kucinich as they have witnessed how the powers marginalize and adroitly spin the two into being but "fringies".

i myself am one this group.

i now feel shame that i bought the lesser evil BS(which i vocally disdained before i voted) and did cop out and vote for Kerry.

i am here to present a reality and that is as much as 20% that voted for Kerry in 2008, will not vote for either republican or democratic Presidential candidate in 2008.

i write this to this thread as a reality message to those that are perhaps political junkies, to say the "we have had it" non-political junkies have been lost to you, we have left the decaying, crumbling edifice cruelly called Democracy---yes we have left the building.

Of those candidates that have a real chance to get the nomination, yes only Obama, do i see as possibly throwing off the Israeli Lobby and the War Party, that bipartisan power house, but we will not ever risk being so betrayed again.(EDIT: Update to today, 5/5/2008. i NOW see no possibility of Obama STANDING UP to The Israeli Lobby and/or The War Party.Obama has established himself in WIMPITUDE, that is sad. But, unless he revolts, and damn soon, he will be branded just another WIMP, waffler, no real conviction, just wiggling around trying to see how to slither his way into the Presidency. What is incredible, he has become such a "me too! me too" regards Iran and Israel, he his falling back, he could blow this getting the democratic candidacy all together.Now he cowers and denounces people that dare say The U.S. is an imperialistic monster marching into a disaster.He does pathetic charades like drinking a Bud 'to show he got balls', cripes how utterly shallow. What a sick sideshow american politics has become--max)

We will not be voting or will be voting protest votes, such as for Ron Paul.
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My 'politics' are a strange mix of StudsTerkel and Robinson Jeffers. Terkel of a new deal socialist bent and Jeffers a anti-war Libertarian.

i have been compatible with these supposed opposites, and to StudsTerket who is still extraordinarily alive in his mind at 95.

But in an interview i recently heard Studs Terkel spoke disdainfully of the politics in america, he feels the generation now, the Boomers and younger, are in the overall frightenly ignorant.

He is appalled at what america has become and in that he strongly INCLUDES includes the Democratic Party.

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As for Jeffers, he prophesized what we have become, his dark view of the future has come to being.

As for who will be the next POTUS, i don't really care, this train America is heading for hell and will take the world with it.

i close with "Don't follow leaders, watch the parking meters, it doesn't take a weatherman to tell which way the WIND blows!! from Subterranean Homesick Blues, OF COURSE.
and as Looney Tunes close "And thathatha that's all folks!"
Max90



To: TigerPaw who wrote (77523)5/9/2008 11:19:33 AM
From: denizen48  Respond to of 89467
 
I know most of Dylan's songs by heart. Highway 66 Revisited has gotta be his best. Anyway, been reading Young Stalin. Very interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if SDS had patterned themselves after the early Bolshevists...rather than a line out of Bringing It All back Home. Dylan is apolitical in his bibliographic writings.