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To: NAG1 who wrote (63667)5/6/2008 8:36:41 AM
From: biotech_bull  Respond to of 543587
 
I see Clinton as being tough politically but we don't know what she would be like in the White House. One place I will disagree with you to a degree is that we don't know how tough politically Obama is

That is one of the major flaws in the system - it is designed to identify the best politician not the best leader.

I think one has to give Obama credit for hanging in there against this onslaught.
If by tough politically you mean negative campaigning he hasn't done well - he has generally taken the high road except when he compared Hillary to Annie Oakley.

The irony is that if he'd called her Rambo he'd have been OK!



To: NAG1 who wrote (63667)5/6/2008 8:40:47 AM
From: Dale Baker  Respond to of 543587
 
people were using the fact that pundits were saying Clinton was tough as a negative for her. I don't happen to see it that way.

The problem is Hillary's proven instinct to respond to every attack with another attack, to see her herself and Bill as the victims of a grand rightwing conspiracy, and her reliance on one segment of the Democratic base that she will "fight" for while she doesn't speak much to other constituencies, independents and Republicans.

That is not a formula for changing anything in Washington. She could win the presidency by a narrow margin, then face the 60-vote hurdle in Senate where she would have little or no ability to form new bridges after fighting so hard for one particular group and cause.

That is my surmise; but it is no less valid than all the assumptions about what would happen to Obama in the campaign or the White House.

And it is what turns off many, many people when they consider voting for Hillary. A lot of people are tired of politicians fighting each other to shove through one partisan agenda or another.

Others think that is the point of our political system. Each will vote accordingly.