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To: jlallen who wrote (263508)5/6/2008 5:59:36 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Would President Lincoln enjoy the admiration he currently receives if the Confederate States of America had become an independant nation which later made its own laws of equality.

The restructuring of the South may have been done with less resentment than was produced by the land grab of the northern carpet baggers and laws like 'forty acres and a mule' generated. The agrarian lifestyle and success of plantation farming was destroyed by the outcome of that conflict at a much greater cost to human dignity as far as the treatment of soldiers goes, than we are seeing in Iraq. The economy of the Southern states still hasn't quite recovered.

With the advent of modern farming technology like the cotton gin and the world wide trend to abolish slavery it seems inevitable that the Confederacy would have eventually come to terms with this issue probably sooner rather than later, and that they would have abolished slavery.

With a different civil war outcome, Lincoln may have been remembered quite differently than he is today.

How will Bush be appreciated after he leaves office if Democracy doesn't take in Iraq and powerful movements like the Mahdis leave Iraq with a different legacy, a legacy that comes back to haunt us?

America's success in Iraq, or not, is key to a great deal related to the future.



To: jlallen who wrote (263508)5/6/2008 8:34:06 PM
From: neolib  Respond to of 281500
 
Bush's excessive loyalty to those who surround him....

As I pointed out, he shafted a number of people around him who he should have listened too (but whose views didn't mess with his own) and he kept a bunch of dingbats he should have canned (but who had more agreeable things to say). There is only one individual responsible for that: Bush himself.