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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (21504)5/9/2008 9:36:27 PM
From: average joe  Respond to of 36921
 
More stuff to be frightened and worried about -

Sinkhole and Town: Now You See It ...

By RALPH BLUMENTHAL

Published: May 9, 2008

DAISETTA, Tex. — A huge and ravenous sinkhole that threatened to swallow this little East Texas oil town gobbled more crumbling earth Thursday but spared, at least for now, homes, the high school and the main road, Farm to Market 770.

The New York Times

The little East Texas oil town of Daisetta was threatened.
“It’s unreal — the earth just wallered up,” said Lynn Wells, the mayor and fire chief, who monitored emergency efforts, speeding back and forth on his red Harley-Davidson.

Since the rim of an underground salt dome collapsed and the ground cracked and gave way abruptly Wednesday morning, the hole — already one of the largest on record, geologists here said — has grown to about 600 feet by 525 feet and 150 feet deep, said Cpl. Hugh Bishop of the Liberty County Sheriff’s Office.

Tom Branch, coordinator of the Liberty County Office of Emergency Management, has been in the job only two weeks and was expecting something different from oil country.

“I’m used to things blowing up, not falling in,” Mr. Branch said.

Two trucks have already tumbled into the saltwater muck, along with two grain tanks, utility poles and pine trees. A work shed of the DeLoach Oil and Gas Well Vacuum Service adjacent to the pit hung precariously over the rim, likely to topple in next.

“I’ve got some lakefront lots to sell here,” said a neighbor, Harold McCann, 82, as he sat on his property staring out at what had been, barely 24 hours ago, a wooded field.

Officials expressed cautious optimism Thursday that the collapse had stabilized. “It appears to be slowing down, the hole does,” Corporal Bishop said.

But he said that “there are still chunks falling in” and that the authorities were prepared to evacuate Daisetta’s 1,034 residents if the hole suddenly grew.

Carl E. Norman, a consulting geologist and professor emeritus at the University of Houston, did not offer residents much comfort when he said at a news briefing here, “This is not the largest sinkhole in the world.” But Dr. Norman added: “For a salt dome, this is a very large one. This is exceptionally large.”

He said, “This may become stable any day, or it could collapse in six months.” And, he warned, “It could double in size.”

There were not many options, Dr. Norman said, adding, “Stopping it is a very difficult thing to do.”

The entire subterranean salt dome might be as much as six miles in diameter, he said.

The collapse might have been entirely natural, he said, or hastened by injections of saltwater wastes by oil companies under disposal permits from the Texas Railroad Commission, which regulates oil drilling.

According to the United States Geological Survey, sinkholes are common where the underlining rock is limestone, carbonate or salt beds that can be dissolved by circulating water that hollows out caverns. The land above stays intact for a while, and then can suddenly collapse.

In 1973, a sinkhole that became known as the December Giant opened up near Montevallo, Ala. At 520 feet by 125 feet and 60 feet deep, it was then called the largest collapse in the country in many years. In the 1980s, smaller sinkholes opened up in and around Daisetta, about 50 miles east-northeast of Houston and named for two early residents, Daisy Barrett and Etta White.

But nothing like the current collapse, which residents have begun calling “the Sinkhole de Mayo,” had ever happened here.

The first warnings came Wednesday morning when employees of the DeLoach company saw cracks in the earth and the roadway started “warping down,” Corporal Bishop said.

Ricky and Dicky Johnson, brothers who live near Mr. McCann close to the pit, said they felt it coming on about 10 a.m. “The ground got to shaking,” said Dicky Johnson, over the din of news helicopters hovering over the site.

Quickly, the hole grew to 20 feet across. Then things started falling in.

nytimes.com



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (21504)5/10/2008 12:54:58 AM
From: average joe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 36921
 
Fox's Baier misrepresented Gore's comments about Myanmar cyclone

Summary: Fox News' Bret Baier claimed that in an interview on NPR, "Former Vice President Al Gore says global warming is to blame for the cyclone in Myanmar." In fact, while Gore did discuss the cyclone in the context of global warming, he also stated -- just moments earlier -- that "any individual storm can't be linked singularly to global warming."

During the May 8 edition of Fox News' Special Report, guest host Bret Baier claimed that in an interview on National Public Radio, "Former Vice President Al Gore says global warming is to blame for the cyclone in Myanmar." Baier subsequently stated: "But many experts say it is impossible to credibly make such a link. Willie Soon of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics tells Fox, quote, 'It is an alarmist statement, and Vice President Gore wants to confuse the crowd,' adding, 'There is no way to blame any single event on CO2 and global warming.' " In fact, while Gore did discuss the cyclone in the context of global warming, he also stated -- just moments earlier -- that "any individual storm can't be linked singularly to global warming." Gore said that "the emerging consensus among the climate scientists is that even though any individual storm can't be linked singularly to global warming -- we've always had hurricanes -- nevertheless, the trend toward more Category 5 storms, the larger ones, and the trend toward stronger and more destructive storms appears to be linked to global warming."

From the May 8 edition of Fox News' Special Report with Brit Hume:

BAIER: And guess what Al Gore blames for that cyclone in Burma? We'll see if you're right after the break.

[...]

BAIER: And now, for the most tantalizing two minutes in television, some fresh pickings from the "Political Grapevine."

Former Vice President Al Gore says global warming is to blame for the cyclone in Myanmar, formerly known as Burma. In an interview with National Public Radio, Gore called the storm one of the, quote, "consequences that scientists have long predicted might be associated with global warming."


But many experts say it is impossible to credibly make such a link. Willie Soon of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics tells Fox, quote, "It is an alarmist statement, and Vice President Gore wants to confuse the crowd," adding, "There is no way to blame any single event on CO2 and global warming."

That's a sentiment supported by Dr. Adam Lea at the University College of London, who says, quote, "It's impossible to say."

And Jeff Poor of the Business and Media Institute writes that "sing tragedy to advance an agenda has been a strategy for many global warming activists."

In fact, when asked about Hurricane Katrina on the May 6 edition of NPR's Fresh Air, Gore stated: "It's also important to note that the emerging consensus among the climate scientists is that even though any individual storm can't be linked singularly to global warming -- we've always had hurricanes -- nevertheless, the trend toward more Category 5 storms, the larger ones, and the trend toward stronger and more destructive storms appears to be linked to global warming." Moments later, Gore said: "And as we're talking today, Terry [Gross, host], the death count in Myanmar from the cyclone that hit there yesterday has been rising from 15,000 to way on up there to much higher numbers now being speculated. And last year a catastrophic storm last fall hit Bangladesh. The year before, the strongest cyclone in more than 50 years hit China. And we're seeing consequences that scientists have long predicted might be associated with continued global warming. And the entire north polar ice cap, normally the size of the lower 48 states, give or take an Arizona, is melting before our eyes 40 percent melted in the last 20 years. And in the summer months it could be completely gone, according to one scientific estimate, in as little as five years."

From the May 6 edition of NPR's Fresh Air:

GROSS: You know, in your book you mention that you think Katrina, Hurricane Katrina, convinced Americans to look differently at climate crisis --

GORE: Some, mm-hmm.

GROSS: -- even though no one can say for sure whether Katrina was directly a result of the climate crisis or not. But, you know, one reaction to Katrina, one now-famous reaction was from Pastor John Hagee, whose endorsement John McCain sought.

GORE: Mm-hmm.

GROSS: And on our show about Hurricane Katrina, he said, "All hurricanes are acts of God because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God and they were recipients of the judgment of God for that. I believe that Hurricane Katrina was, in fact, the judgment of God against the city of New Orleans." And he went on to explain that this was punishment for a gay pride parade that was about to happen that promised to reach a level of sexuality never demonstrated before in all of the gay pride parades. So what do you think about when you hear a reaction like that to Katrina?

GORE: Well, my friends in New Orleans said, "Well, if that's the case, how come God spared the French Quarter?" Of course that's silly. It's also important to note that the emerging consensus among the climate scientists is that even though any individual storm can't be linked singularly to global warming -- we've always had hurricanes -- nevertheless, the trend toward more Category 5 storms, the larger ones, and the trend toward stronger and more destructive storms appears to be linked to global warming and specifically to the impact of global warming on higher ocean temperatures in the top couple hundred feet of the ocean, which drives convection energy and moisture into these storms and makes them more powerful.

And as we're talking today, Terry, the death count in Myanmar from the cyclone that hit there yesterday has been rising from 15,000 to way on up there to much higher numbers now being speculated. And last year a catastrophic storm last fall hit Bangladesh. The year before, the strongest cyclone in more than 50 years hit China. And we're seeing consequences that scientists have long predicted might be associated with continued global warming. And the entire north polar ice cap, normally the size of the lower 48 states, give or take an Arizona, is melting before our eyes 40 percent melted in the last 20 years. And in the summer months it could be completely gone, according to one scientific estimate, in as little as five years.

Baier also quoted Jeff Poor of the Business & Media Institute, who wrote that "sing tragedy to advance an agenda has been a strategy for many global warming activists." According to its website, the Business & Media Institute "is a division of the Media Research Center," a conservative media watchdog group.

mediamatters.org