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To: michael97123 who wrote (383763)	5/12/2008 10:41:04 AM
From: Alighieri	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572900

Now when we have political disagreements we accuse the other side of being anti-american and demonize them whether its the left on bush or the right on the dems. It's a right wing American invention. It's a way of stifling debate. It's just short of gagging opposing views...but not by much. Al

To: michael97123 who wrote (383763)	5/12/2008 11:22:39 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572900

Now when we have political disagreements we accuse the other side of being anti-american and demonize them whether its the left on bush or the right on the dems. Scalia may have been on to somethng. First, it is important to recognize that the extremes of today's Left, several of whom post here, are being labeled as anti-American because they are. They hate America, they blame America for all the world's problems, and the far Left, like Obama, actually believe that 9/11 was merely "America's chickens coming home to roost". That, no matter what lighter language you would prefer, is anti-American. The hatred and vitriol unleashed by the Left since the Clinton years has been unprecedented, and the division is a predictable result of it. The loss in 2000 was a huge contributor to it -- the Left never got over it. And this is definitely part of it. But the truth is that the Left in America has become far more extreme -- while the Right has moderated. As evidence, one need only look at the current election -- we have a very moderate (almost left-leaning) John McCain against an extremist Obama (imagine, when in the past would the Left have considered a candidate with ties to a terrorist like Ayres?). As the Left has become more extreme, so, too, has the rhetoric. Look at the extreme Left blogs like Huffington & DailyKos -- do you see that crap from the Right? The Left has become so extreme that many are actually anti-American, and that's why they get the label. When you criticize America for protecting itself and behaving according to its own Constitution, that is Anti-American. These are fundamental precepts of Americanism, and when you criticize them, are not behaving in a pro-American way.

To: michael97123 who wrote (383763)	5/12/2008 1:25:06 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 1572900

The reason the left gets accused of anti-Americanism is because of the hatred and disgust they display toward America and Americans. Let's take a well-known example - Michael Moore: Should such an ignorant people lead the world? How did it come to this in the first place? 82 percent of us don't even have a passport! Just a handful can speak a language other than English (and we don't even speak that very well.) On Americans in an Open Letter to the German publication Die Zeit (11 June 2003) (published in German) They are possibly the dumbest people on the planet... in thrall to conniving, thieving, smug pricks. We Americans suffer from an enforced ignorance. We don't know about anything that's happening outside our country. Our stupidity is embarrassing. National Geographic produced a survey which showed that 60 percent of 18-25 year olds don't know where Great Britain is on a map. And 92 percent of us don't own a passport. On the American public, as quoted in "The Awkward Conscience of a Nation" in The Daily Mirror (3 November 2003); also partly quoted in "The company they keep" by Michael Barone, in U.S.News & World Report (12 July 2004) Now, if he's not anti-American, why is he going to foreign countries to diss Americans? Why is it unfair to accuse someone of being what they are?