To: mistermj who wrote (249601 ) 5/12/2008 6:22:54 PM From: goldworldnet Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793843 As a rainy day defense weapon, very little can top a shotgun. Mick recommended a pump-action shotgun with pistol grips. It requires little to no training aside from basic safety, care and target acquisition. He went on to suggest a particular load out of the ammunition with home defense in mind. The 1st round out (last one loaded) should be rock salt, you'd have to learn how to do this yourself or find someone who can, Mick likes rock salt for it's known ability to inflict pain without being likely to kill. This can be inappropriate for a rainy day load as it may not store well for long periods or may not function at a critical moment, I'd personally recommend rubber pellets as they are available as a factory load and have the same desired effect, non-lethal deterrent. It has the secondary bonus effect of waking up your neighbors and warning them to get on the ground and phone the police without being able to penetrate a wall, ceiling or floor. The 2nd round is bird shot, this is a stronger warning that you are willing to use force in an escalating fashion and will brook no further intrusion into your home, it is also likely the intruder will survive to change their mind. This is the last "non-lethal" round in the shotgun as after two warning shots, they are intent on harm and you should be too. The 3rd shot is buckshot, this is a penetrating and potentially devastating round for a shotgun. It is unlikely that an intruder will survive this round. The 4th round is also buckshot as the intruder may not be alone. The final round is a solid slug, on the off chance that an intruder is protected by body armor, which would reduce the effectiveness of buckshot, this will likely end the conflict.helium.com * * *