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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: longnshort who wrote (21565)5/13/2008 5:53:21 PM
From: neolib  Respond to of 36923
 
gee, look at this graph then:



Have the sun spots shown the same overall trend? Err no, they have not. It is generally thought that solar cycles do affect all the wiggles about that trend line, as do other factors. For your edification, the most recent paper in Nature which confused all the deniers is precisely an attempt to allow the climate models to predict those wiggles. The climate models do wiggle all about as it is, it is just that the wiggles show very poor correlation with the measured wiggles. Hence climate projections don't try to predict such wiggles currently. This allows clueless individuals to make all sorts of nonsense claims. I guess this is good for the economy as it keeps junkscience pundits employed.



To: longnshort who wrote (21565)5/14/2008 10:29:16 AM
From: average joe  Respond to of 36923
 
Maybe neolib can tame the sun after he parts the sea with one of his graphs.

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