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To: Ilaine who wrote (34749)5/14/2008 9:08:26 AM
From: arun gera  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 217649
 
>There are no doubt richer countries in the world but I don't think you could call us poor.>

How about in terms of assets/debt ratio?



To: Ilaine who wrote (34749)5/14/2008 11:33:37 AM
From: elmatador  Respond to of 217649
 
Your echelon not.

Economic 'misery' more widespread
Wednesday May 14, 10:37 am ET
By Chris Isidore, CNNMoney.com senior writer

Americans are feeling a lot more economic pain than the government's official statistics would lead you to believe, according to a growing number of experts.
They argue that figures for unemployment and inflation are being understated by the government.


Unemployment and inflation are typically added together to come up with a so-called "Misery Index."

The "Misery Index" was often cited during periods of high unemployment and inflation, such as the mid 1970s and late 1970s to early 1980s.

And some fear the economy may be approaching those levels again.

The official numbers produce a current Misery Index of only 8.9 - inflation of 3.9% plus unemployment of 5%. That's not far from the Misery Index's low of 6.1 seen in 1998.

But using the estimates on CPI and unemployment from economists skeptical of the government numbers, the Misery Index is actually in the teens. Some worry it could even approach the post-World War II record of 20.6 in 1980.

"We're looking at government numbers that are really out of whack," said Kevin Phillips, author of the book "Bad Money."

No inflation if you don't eat or drive

According to the government's most recent Consumer Price Index, a key inflation reading, consumer prices rose 3.9% in the 12 months ending in April, down slightly from the 4% annual inflation rate in March despite record gasoline prices.

But Phillips argues that consumer prices are probably up at least 5% and perhaps more than 10%.

Part of the disconnect may be due to the fact that nondurable goods, such as food and gasoline, makes up only 12% of CPI.

In addition, food and energy prices are eliminated from the so-called core CPI, which many economists tend to focus more closely on because they claim food and gas prices are volatile.

But food and energy costs are a very important part of household budgets. And those prices have been skyrocketing: Gas prices were up about 21% over the 12 months ending in April.

However, due to seasonal adjustments in the CPI, the government reported that gas prices were down 2% in April, even though on a non-adjusted basis, gas prices rose 5.6% from March.

And even that number may be too low. Measures of gasoline prices by AAA and the Department of Energy suggested prices rose as much as 10% in April.

Meanwhile, food prices rose 5.1% over the last 12 months, according to the report. The nearly 1% one-month jump in food prices in April was the biggest spike in 18 years.

To that end, nearly half of the respondents of a recent CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll said inflation was the biggest problem they face.

CPI missed the housing bubble...and bust

Another problem with the CPI figures, according to skeptics, is that it doesn't accurately reflect what's going on in the housing market. That's significant because the cost of buying a home has twice the impact on CPI as does the prices of all nondurable goods combined.

The CPI showed only an 11% rise in home ownership costs from 2002 through 2006, a time that the National Association of Realtors reported that existing home prices soared 34%.

The reason for the low CPI reading is because the CPI looks at equivalent rents, rather than home prices. So inflation was understated during this period, according to Phillips. He argues this may have helped feed the housing boom since it kept mortgage rates lower than they should have been.

Now that the housing boom has gone bust, the CPI appears to be missing the declines in home prices as well; it estimates that the cost of owning a home posted a 12-month increase of 2.6% in April.

But because the CPI figure was so far behind tracking the increase in home values, the housing component of CPI still is leading to a lower inflation reading than what it should be, Phillips said.

The inflation 'con job'

The unusual way that housing prices are estimated isn't the only peculiarity of the CPI report. Over the past ten years, there have been other changes in the calculations, particularly for big ticket items.

Cuts to estimated prices for items like electronics and cars that are thought to have improvements in quality year-after-year have lowered the overall CPI. In addition, changes in the way certain products, such as food, are tracked by the government, have also contributed to lower readings than otherwise expected.

Bill Gross, the manager of Pimco Total Return, the nation's largest bond fund, refers to the CPI as a "con job" that deliberately understates the price pressures faced by Americans in order to keep Social Security payments and other government costs pegged to the index unduly low.

In a report about the CPI, he noted that some of the adjustments don't accurately reflect how much consumers pay for goods. Pimco estimates that the changes have shaved more than a percentage point off the CPI.

"Did your new model computer come with a 25% discount from last year's price?" Gross wrote. "Probably not. What is likely is that you paid about the same price for memory improvements you'll never use."

Another flaw with the CPI numbers is that the government now assumes that higher prices for one item will lead consumers to buy more of a substitution item. That may be true. But if people buy fewer steaks and more hamburgers, for example, it's unrealistic to say that inflation isn't a problem, skeptics maintain.

"The government can claim there's no inflation but all they're measuring is a reduced standard of living," argues Peter Schiff, president of Euro Pacific Capital, an investment firm specializing in overseas investments.

With all this in mind, California economist John Williams argues that CPI is understating inflation by at least 3 percentage points and perhaps as much as 7 percentage points. So instead of an annual inflation rate of 4%, the true number could be between 7% and 11%.

Unemployed, but not counted

Finally, there's the unemployment rate. It was at a relatively low 5% in April. But according to Williams' Web site, ShadowStats.com, the actual rate may be between 8% and 12% if you use a more accurate reading of those out of work.

Even the government's own numbers show there are many unemployed people not showing up in the unemployment rate. The official reading does not include 4.8 million people who want to work but haven't found a job, for example.

Many of these people are dropped from the official calculation because they have become so discouraged from looking without success that they haven't looked in the previous four weeks. Simply adding those people to the number of unemployed takes the current unemployment rate to 7.8%.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics, which produces both the CPI and unemployment readings, says changes in both measures were made to more accurately reflect the real world. The BLS also says the changes have resulted in changes of less than 1% for each measure.

Still, the Labor Department's own broadest measure of unemployment, which includes as jobless those working part-time jobs because they can't find full-time positions as well as some discouraged job seekers, puts the unemployment rate at 9.2% in April, the highest level for that reading in more than three years.

So if you take that number and add that to the 7% that Williams thinks is a more likely annual inflation rate, you're looking at a "Misery Index" of 16.2, much worse than the 8.9 you get from the official numbers.

And while that may seem a bit high, it's probably a more accurate gauge of how bad the economy is for many Americans.



To: Ilaine who wrote (34749)5/23/2008 7:50:14 AM
From: Moominoid  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217649
 
Interesting discussion:

watt-evans.com

Remember recently Blazenzim was going on about his Patek Phillipe watch, you said you got a Timex and I said I had a Swatch... hmmm....



To: Ilaine who wrote (34749)5/27/2008 7:32:10 AM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217649
 
just noticed this message,

The Policy Of The “Elite” Versus The Public:
Politically, one can always know when an “establishment” is in charge of any nation. After every election and change of government, nothing really changes. The public is given the spectacle of people running for public office, of primaries, of party conventions, of national elections for Prime Minister or President. After it is all over, everything looks the same until the next election approaches. Then the same thing happens all over again. Politically though, as time passes, this process splits the establishment from the general public so that, at election time, the numbers of those voting starts a long-term decline. When the nation’s political establishment realises this is happening, it often starts small external wars in order to distract the public internally. These wars are never large enough to place the nation in jeopardy. Any internal changes or improvements are postponed because of the small external war and the public waits for a peace to be made. It cannot protest while the war is going on, that would be unpatriotic. This attitude is also known by the political establishment, which is the historical reason why many of these small wars have gone on for astounding lengths of time. But the real internal political problem with all small external wars is that the process of fighting them often leads to increasing internal repressions in order to extract from the public the economic means of war. When that happens, the public’s outlook starts to diverge from that of the political elite and the nation has a fissure. Here, the political elite faces a policy choice. It can either alter its own policy, end its external wars and start to address what the public is concerned about. Or it can continue its policy of small external aggressions for the purposes of internal distraction. If it does the latter, it places itself on the political road of ever increasing internal repression in order to continue its external policy.

Having done that, and in increasing fear of its own public, the elite starts to finance its external wars with credit, i.e. loans. It does not dare to tax for the costs.

The Political Cross-Over Point:
Along this road, a point is always reached where the public realises that their own lives are going
nowhere because of the climbing costs of the external wars. An example here is the US where real American living standards have not improved since the early 1970s. In 2001, in the midst of recession and after 9/11, the US political “elite” declared war - on “terror”. Then came the attack on Iraq. Five years later, the US armed forces are still there in an unwinnable war. The costs are killing the fiscal budget of the US and Treasury debts are soaring. In response to the increasing resentment felt by ever more Americans, the US political establishment has established a full-scale internal surveillance state, always only a step away from a police state. That has been done because it is now the US political establishment which lives in political fear of the American public. What they fear is that the American public will spontaneously turn on them in a massive demonstration of sheer frustration.

The FINAL Choice:
The political elite now faces an American public which has realised that the US has failed in its military campaign in the Middle East as well as having failed as the economic managers of the US economy. This is the most dangerous point of all. Politically, this is the point where the political elite has to make its final choice. That choice is to maintain its external policy at the internal cost of full-scale repression or to give away its external policy at the very likely political cost of a total loss of internal political power.

Historically for the United States, the outlook is not good. No political elite nor its political establishment has ever vacated power without an immense internal political and/or physical struggle to maintain it. But as the sudden fall in 1991 of the USSR has shown, once a political establishment (the Communist Party) loses its morale, its fall from power is total and absolute. The American political establishment is today in a similar position. The United States is now in a pre-revolutionary position. It will either suddenly swing backwards towards its historical tradition of Individual Liberty and Freedom. Or it will suddenly swing into the long night of an internal police state and endless new wars.



To: Ilaine who wrote (34749)11/26/2008 6:56:02 PM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 217649
 
hello cb ilaine, i looked at the devastation that is financial econo monetary arena and thought of you, naturally.

returning to these subjects Message 24260266 , any updates on what you are now thinking

any regret, particularly about this stance Message 19996447 ?

no?

then there will be quite a bit more of sharp pain still to come, to be followed by a dull empty ache, i fear

cheers, tj



To: Ilaine who wrote (34749)4/6/2009 2:23:20 PM
From: elmatador  Respond to of 217649
 
Homeowners’ Hard Times Are Good for the Foreclosure Business
nytimes.com