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To: MrLucky who wrote (249869)5/14/2008 2:24:15 PM
From: Oral Roberts  Respond to of 793782
 
Where is Paul Smith, the big supporter of McCain, on this thread?

His pay per post ran out once McCain had the nomination perhaps:)



To: MrLucky who wrote (249869)5/14/2008 2:25:18 PM
From: gamesmistress  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 793782
 
This is why I will hold my nose and vote for McCain: he's the "far lesser evil".

From Jerry Pournelle's blog:

I have a number of letters about McCain and why we ought to vote Libertarian and "Send a message." I understand the argument.

The fact is that the Democrats will control Congress. If they also control the White House, we will have a series of legislative packages that will make the Great Society look like a libertarian government. In opposition the Republicans rediscover their principles; it's power they haven't been able to handle since Newt Gingrich was Speaker.

The country is in trouble. We have forgotten our founding principles, and we move inexorably toward a European style socialist state, with the only winners being an enormous bureaucracy. This will accelerate the economic decline.

The argument is to give the Democrats their head, and pick up the pieces after the inevitable crash. I think that overlooks the resilience of tax and tax, spend and spend, elect and elect regimes. We haven't seen much in the way of reforms in Europe. The Democrats will create new bureaucracies that can never be dismantled: an example is the Department of Education. Reagan came into office determined to abolish it. Now it owns US education, and No Child Left Behind is entrenched. The Iron Law of Bureaucracy is inexorable.

The country was reasonably well managed when we had a Republican Congress and a Democrat President.

As to the war: if we give the Democrats full control of the government, we won't get a sensible foreign policy: see Kosovo if you doubt that. We may get a disengagement from Iraq: the price will be high, in blood of those in Iraq who trusted us, and in honor. We may not. Disengaging from Iraq will not be a simple matter. A gradual withdrawal won't work well: as we pull out, the insurgents will be heartened. The result won't be pretty.

Sure, we can retreat. We have the military power to cut and run, get out and get out fast. The results of that will be with us for a long time. Recall the last helicopter out of Saigon?

I conclude that McCain as president is a far lesser evil than Obama would be. But there are those in whom hope springs eternal: who hold the view that Obama is not what all the evidence says he is, a left wing liberal intellectual with Chicago political connections and all the ethical implications that implies. Hope springs eternal.

Thus we have the choice: a Chicago machine politician with Harvard liberal beliefs vs. a country club Republican who feels entitled.

The post-Gingrich Republicans who invented "big government conservatism" have much to answer for.



To: MrLucky who wrote (249869)5/15/2008 1:34:25 AM
From: KLP  Respond to of 793782
 
Fred Thompson had more energy than McCain is projecting....there is no excitement in him for this job. And his two opponents have energy, but not much substance.

It's a sad state of affairs.

The perverse part of me wants to think it's a giant ploy to make the Dems think we aren't paying attention.

heh. If that's true, the Repubs are better actors than they are politicians....We AREN'T paying attention.

Here's Paul Smith's last post.
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