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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (123480)	5/15/2008 5:41:46 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 173976

It amazes me how willing you are to dismiss or 'forget' major portions of discussions in what appears to be an effort to save face. Hint: It does the opposite. "1. re:1) Is the Minutemen Organization a racist organization? What would you call an organization that demonstrates with and has members of the American Nazi Party in it" You will recall the Nazi's consider themselves the super race. " What are you the new McCarthyism? There are supremicists in every institution and every organization, which does not make the organization itself a supremicist organisation. The Minutemen organization is made up of multiple races including latinos and has clear policies that are not racist. Your own insistance on this difinition establishes that they are NOT a racist organization. You bolded it for my attention: 1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race Message 24588953 How many more ways can you contradict yourself? They are not racist as I have demonstrated and by your own insistence on that definition of racism

To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (123480)	5/15/2008 5:50:35 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

”5. My qualifier was I don't support if it is directed at a group of people, in your example....Mexicans, not the nation of Mexico. And I said that smacks of racism as correctly defined.” No it wasn’t unless you decided to change your view after seeing the complexity of the issue. You never said you changed your viewpoint, you only reacted in fear of being called a racist, which is what you had been promoting all along. You didn’t cover your tracks or come clean though. I said the idea was abhorrent. You said you supported it Absolutely!! whether it was about a Nation, a group of people, a government or someone’s personal reasons. I thought you would only say such a horrid thing when it was directed at Americans. So I rephrased it using Mexicans and Mexico, but you affirmed your first comment again saying, ‘they can do it’. It was only when I suggested they could do it in your name that you realized there was a problem. Btw Mr Absolutely!! Who is the judge of the reasons someone has for burning a flag? Who says ‘yes’ to this person and ‘no’ to another one? And just how does that work? ===== "Absolutely!!" ==== "re:So if someone owns a flag and wants to burn it, like people who don't respect Americans or America or if they are mad at Americans, the government, or have some personal reason to disrespect the flag, you support them. Is that right?" You: Absolutely!!" How would you feel about people who don't like Mexicans, or Mexico, or who are mad at Mexicans, or who have some personal issue, burning Mexican flags in Southern California in front of Mexican Nationals? I would find that kind of behavior to be abhorrent, if I saw it done in front of my neighbors. ======= You: "They can do it"