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To: jimss who wrote (9646)	5/15/2008 8:57:25 PM
From: NOW	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50424

you got one skewed view of history

To: jimss who wrote (9646)	5/15/2008 10:16:28 PM
From: bullbud	Respond to of 50424

Can't compare Germany/Japan to Vietnam/Iraq. Germany and Japan were attackers. Vietnam/Iraq were conflicts we butted into that had nothing to do with us. Both a disaster. Cambodia would have happened regardless. Middle East will have conflict no matter who plays sheriff. IT WILL NEVER END.

To: jimss who wrote (9646)	5/16/2008 4:51:48 PM
From: NOW	Respond to of 50424

BUt wait: one of your heroes says this is not like WW2 at all: You Mean It's Not World War II After All? "Next we hear Rumsfeld waxing strategic about the shape of the conflict (1:28). It's not like Iwo Jima, he explains, where we'd win a battle, and after it's over, you "own the island." Oh, it's all so very complicated, he whines. Oh, really? If it was all so complicated, why did a few hippies unschooled in the military arts make that same argument six years ago now, when the Iraq scheme was first being bruited by the Administration? Listening to this clip is nothing less than pathetic. When you go in to go after the militias, they leave, he explains. As if we didn't learn that in Vietnam. Ahah! I get it. Iraq is not World War II, it's Vietnam! Except, of course, when it is World War II and isn't Vietnam (he later compares Bush to Churchill without the slightest hint of understanding the contradiction, but I couldn't bear to clip it). I guess it depends on the time of day which war is which. The kicker in this clip is at the very end where he insults the American people for "weakened will" as he praises the Iraqi insurgents for being a "hellava lot more skillful" at influencing the American public than is the Bush Administration. " jfxgillis.newsvine.com