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To: Bearcatbob who wrote (66095)	5/17/2008 2:40:33 AM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 543697

Bob, re: "1. Why should we be anticipating government by the Democratic party? Why should we not be fearing it?" Did you read the adjective "eagerly" in front of anticipated? You must have because you missed my point entirely. I was suggesting that we needed a viable and responsible Republican party in opposition to the coming Democratic national leadership. I'm not a fan of unlimited partisan power, even if such power is vested in the Democratic party which has, recently, been the more empathetic party wearing the thinking cap. And I was suggesting that you, and those who would agree with your "more of the same only harder" ideology are dense obstacles standing in the way of that potentially viable, more reasonable Republican opposition. "2. What do you mean by the failure of the two party system?" I mean an election where the Republican party ends up with too few representatives who are too ideologically blinded to influence policy, stimulate debate and generate non partisan solutions to real problems. "3. Wow - those who continue to cling to discredited notions and want to breathe life into a rotting corpse? Wow again - that is real hate rhetoric of the first order. You da man! Let's see - true Republican principals, those lost in the recent Republican Congress, financial responsibility, limited government - are those the discredited notions?" No, not "true Republican principles" like financial responsibility and limited government, just the garbage you were cheering on in the post I responded to. And Bob, OH YEAH, we're going to have that debate now. Obama isn't a Hillary Clinton tarred with the same brush that painted your heroes, Obama will give us clear choices.... Do we want to end not just the war in Iraq but also the mindset that took us there? Is preemptive war consistent with America's principles and ideals and is it something we want in her future? Is talking to your enemies a sign of weakness, is honesty often the best policy, does America have a "strategic interest" right to control vital resources owned by other nations, does shooting into crowds of Muslims advance our national security interests, can we win a war fought a half a world away when we don't understand the culture, don't share the values and when winning means killing big ideas held by others, is the free market really free or has it been hijacked by immensely powerful and wealthy interests, is the country better off when unions are neutered and labor laws are enforced by appointees who refuse to enforce them, are we ready to invest in a better world even if it means sacrifice and higher taxes, are we willing to do what it takes to assure that the quality of a child's education isn't tied to the value of the home the child's parents live in, is it the best use of resources to criminalize commonly used and easily available drugs creating immense illegal profits for criminals together with a criminal justice system that sucks taxpayer dollars like a Hoover Vacuum, is it an American value to allow the poorest among us to suffer disease and death simply because they can't afford adequate medical care, what do we do about the strong backed, willing workers who were once the backbone of America but who now find there is so little demand for hard labor that their wages and their employment are more and more threatened....the list is endless and I'd guess that you're going to be on the wrong side of history when it comes to the long and difficult task of addressing such issues. But rest assured, this election won't be about who's got the biggest swagger, or who talks like a cowboy, or whose pastor is an idiot, this election will be about real issues and unless John McCain and the Republican party can get the Wizard to give them more heart and lot more of a brain, you're not going to enjoy that debate much. Ed