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To: elmatador who wrote (34864)5/17/2008 5:02:09 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217752
 
If one has read Europe's history, he'd now that people's morality in the feudal time, was akin to the morality prevailing inside a modern prison.

You would morph yourself into anything to avoid being crushed. You would do anything to get a favor. And you would behave always in ways to avoid pain and gain advantage.
"And this is so different from the Man in the Grey Flannel Suit because ...? And if you think he's outdated (the book is from the 1950's), this indicates you are out of touch with corporate America - or any other system I know of."

Closer example: the USSR. Under communism one would have to walk the line. Not think. And do whatever necessary to get the advantages the system provided to you.
"And under capitalism you .....?"

Going against the grain was surely recipe for suffering. That also created a morality that was adapted to that system.

What has this to do with more money makes more people honest, an uncultured person would be asking by them.
"For a great many people, there is no such thing as enough money. Even if you are at the very top, others are gaining on you. Many of these people treat money simply as markers that indicate whose ahead in amassing wealth. What can $50B get you, really, that $1B wouldn't? You can only wear one suit at a time, eat so much caviar, and need only one seat on your private jet."

A lot. Or everything. Because scarcity breeds dishonesty,
"And altruism and nobility."

Plenty breeds honesty.
"HUH??????"

That's why civil servants and spies are well paid.
"SPIES????????
The chickenfeed Russia paid its spies is notorious.
Christopher Boyce, who committed crimes that got him life in prison, was paid $20,000 by the Russians!
serendipity.li
Spies are sometimes bureaucrats doing their jobs. They'll never get rich at that.
Freelance spies are paid as little as you can get them to take. Which often isn't much."

It doesn't mean they won't sell themselves. They do. Only that the price is very high, thus limiting the corruption. Therefore more affluent societies tend to be less corrupt than dirty poor ones.

What happens when there is economic depression? Crimes increase. Why are the Scandinavians less corrupt? A uncultured person like MQ would say: DNA.
"You have proof he's wrong? Let's see it. He could be right, you know. If intelligence is partly DNA, why couldn't a tendency to steal be there too?"

Nope. Equality.
"Proof?
And since when are all Scandinavians equal. All men are equal under pure communism. Those countries are not communist and don't want to be.
This is 3 years old but worth the read:
nytimes.com
Well if they're more equal, apparently it's shared poverty: one of the accomplishments of Communism (unless you were Nomenklatura).
Here:
cia.gov
Look at 'Household income or consumption by percentage share'
The lowest 10% get 3.9% of GDP.
The highest 10% get 23.4% of GDP.
sociology.ucsc.edu
50.5% of Norway's wealth is held by that top 10%.
This is equality?
By whose definition?

Here's more equality:
article.wn.com
aftenposten.no
Are you claiming all Norwegians are billionaires? Because they;d have to be to equal these guys."

now tell please those guys to go get some culture before they come to my thread.
"Which guys?"

By the way read the thread subject: This Thread must fight easy conclusions
"Even if they're right? They are sometimes, you know.

Are you telling me to get off the thread? Say so."