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To: TopCat who wrote (385088)	5/19/2008 10:46:36 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576775

I don't know how you can say that....nearly everything you have written would appear to demonize Muslims in general. I'd give you an out if you just wrote "radical Muslims" but you never do. Well, radical Muslims are definitely the apparent problem. I just think there is a lot of evidence that Muslims we think are "moderate" may be more radical than we expect when it comes down to it. For those Muslims who are able to segregate the violence and hatred in Islam from their own values, I have no problem with them. Obviously, not all Muslims are filled with hatred for Americans, etc., but if they feel that way, they would seem to have an obligation to speak out against the corruption of Islam. I don't know who are and who aren't. This isn't in the nature of racism, where all persons of a race are painted with a broad brush because you can see the color of the skin; to the contrary, the danger of "profiling" these individuals is precisely because the differences are not apparent. As an example of how difficult it is, Daniel Pipes relates an anecdote, parts of which are cited below. The point is that we just cannot tell, from one day to the next who are our friends and who are our enemies. I hold no animosity toward those Muslims who are part of the anti-American, hate-filled Muslims. But I honestly have no way to tell them apart because I cannot take their word and behavior at face value; thus, I am determined to be acutely aware of the possibility that ANY Muslim I encounter could be my friend, could be my enemy, and I don't know how to say any clearer than that. In my experience, I've worked with Muslims whom I felt were totally loyal to the working relationship and I've been totally comfortable in accepting those relationships at face value. But today, I do believe it more critical than ever for Americans to be vigilant as to nature of relationships with Muslims. Call me prejudiced or whatever, that's the conclusion I've reached that works for me. ====================================== "In June 1991, Siraj Wahaj, a black convert to Islam and the recipient of some of the American Muslim community's highest honors, had the privilege of becoming the first Muslim to deliver the daily prayer in the U.S. House of Representatives. On that occasion he recited from the Qur'an and appealed to the Almighty to guide American leaders "and grant them righteousness and wisdom. A little over a year later, addressing an audience of New Jersey Muslims, the same Wahaj articulated a rather different vision from his mild and moderate invocation in the House. If only Muslims were more clever politically, he told his New Jersey listeners, they could take over the United States and replace its constitutional government with a caliphate. "If we were united and strong, we'd elect our own emir [leader] and give allegiance to him. . . . [T]ake my word, if 6-8 million Muslims unite in America, the country will come to us." In 1995, Wahaj served as a character witness for Omar Abdel Rahman in the trial that found that blind sheikh guilty of conspiracy to overthrow the government of the United States. More alarming still, the U.S. attorney for New York listed Wahaj as one of the "unindicted persons who may be alleged as co-conspirators" in the sheikh's case." danielpipes.org ===========================================