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To: neolib who wrote (264520)5/21/2008 10:18:16 AM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Corporate control of our fruit and vegetables have done their very best to turn it into wax fruit, that looks great forever, who cares what it tastes like. Anyone with a vegetable garden knows this, sadly, most people don't.



To: neolib who wrote (264520)5/23/2008 2:56:39 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
"Red delicious apples where not the only types of apples available until 3 to 5 years ago."

Who said they were?


You talked about how there has been an attempt in the last 3 to 5 years to increase food quality but how for 30+ years before that it had decreased, and your example was red delicious apples.

More importantly fruit isn't "all food".

Of course, and quite irrelevant.


Quite relevant to your argument, because your argument only deals with fruit (and really only with one type of apple), to try to make a point about all food.

The quality of food generally available to most Americans, not only hasn't gone down, its gone up noticeably. Perhaps most of all when you consider frozen foods and compare them to the old "TV diners", but also when you consider all the organic and premium non-organic produce, the much larger selection of fresh prepared food, many more choices and more high quality choices for restaurant food, etc.

In any case the subject isn't really food, let alone produce, or just red delicious apples, but the larger issue of increasing quality of items across the board.



To: neolib who wrote (264520)5/29/2008 5:16:53 PM
From: geode00  Respond to of 281500
 
It would be nice to see more pastured everything and 100% grass fed beef readily available instead of this scary stuff:

mindfully.org

Pollan's writing on corn and other industrial foods is just frightening. I don't know how vegans get enough variety at their local food market but it is definitely worth considering.