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To: Elmer Phud who wrote (252222)	5/21/2008 1:00:25 PM
From: jay101	Respond to of 275872

< ... I'm getting a headache....> So am I ... Convoluted Socialistic EU "Law" "rules" and "logic" will do that every time ... Combine that insanity with the AMD apologists on this board, justifying distorted logic and mediocrity, WILL result in a migrane.

To: Elmer Phud who wrote (252222)	5/21/2008 1:03:44 PM
From: wbmw	Respond to of 275872

Ephud, I think no matter what cost you're talking about, it would be pretty easy for Intel to produce proof that they are not selling below it. I think the reason so many terms are being thrown around is that it obfuscates the situation enough that AMD advocates can pretend they have a case. It's like throwing a bunch of mud to see what sticks. Very much like AMD's own case, in which they are hoping out of the millions of pages of documents, the hundreds of witnesses, and the thousands of man-hours invested in digging through every aspect of Intel's closet, that they might find something they can use against them. Frankly, it's amazing that for their size, Intel has been clean enough that even AMD's rigorous search for defaming material has yielded them so little. But it is a testament to Intel's standards and business practices. I admit that I have my own bias, but I have been trying to see if AMD has a real case in front of them, and despite my best efforts to see it, I can't find anything conclusive. Of course, that's not to say there isn't a lot of hearsay and conjecture, and in the words of Lionel Hutz, "Those are kinds of evidence."

To: Elmer Phud who wrote (252222)	5/21/2008 1:26:54 PM
From: Saturn V	Respond to of 275872

I'm getting a headache ... Imagine what happens to the judge who has to listen to all these high flying academic costing concepts. The law defines selling below marginal cost to be illegal. Marginal Cost is obvious calculus to the academic, but harder to pin down in practice. So the courts have opted for the more easily calculated "Average Variable Cost", which is "reasonably close" to marginal cost. Even this is controversial since what constitutes Fixed Expense and Variable Expense will always be an issue for debate, and more headaches !