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To: Dale Baker who wrote (67686)	5/22/2008 10:59:18 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542835

Simplistic polling questions are another reason why we don't have thoughtful dialog, along with cable TV, talk radio, and the sorry state of education.

To: Dale Baker who wrote (67686)	5/22/2008 11:10:58 AM
From: Suma	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542835

Florida voters say they will not vote for Obama. This is representative of the Florida Jewish population which is huge. I think it has to do with his stand on Israel... or lack of support as they interpret talking to the enemy would be...

To: Dale Baker who wrote (67686)	5/22/2008 2:28:06 PM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542835

>>"Most Americans—52%--say bringing the troops home within four years is a higher priority than winning the War. Thirty-nine percent (39%) disagree and say winning the War is more important. Men, by a 51% to 44% margin, say it is more important to win the War. Women, by a two-to-one margin, say it is more important to get the troops home."<< Dale - If I believed that we actually could "win" this war, I might be in the latter camp. But I see no evidence that such is the case. The Administration seems to define winning as having a stable and secure democratic government in place, with violence reduced to some acceptable level (whatever that might be). I don't see how we're going to get to such a state through the use of force. Furthermore, I don't see why we should expect that a democratic Iraq wouldn't eventually look a lot like Iran does now. How does "Iraqi President Muqtada al Sadr" sound? - Allen