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To: NAG1 who wrote (67706)5/22/2008 12:43:05 PM
From: ChinuSFO  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 542139
 
My answer to what you posted is, I hope going to be very simple.

Hillary should cease and desist from trying to change the rules of the game that she agreed to in October 2007. Clinton should not create a category of "almost won"

She is not the appointed representative of the Florida or the Michigan Democrats. She ditched them in October 2007 by signing on the line to not have their votes counted. Hence she should consider this a closed issue.

On June 3rd, she should see how many pledged delegates she has won just like some of the undecided Supers would do. she has every right to lobby supers to vote for her. But instead, supers vote in a manner to put Obama over the top, she should accept the will of the voters and the party delegates and concede.

That's all. The party folks have been very considerate as have agreed to her request to let the process complete (she has been given an inch). Instead, she persists in wanting to change the rules and create a bunch of new categories to decide the winner (asking for a yard). If so then she is best dealt with by the foot (give her the boot which I already see coming in that everybody recognizing that Obama is the front runner and treating him as such).

It is never late for Hillary to catch the train as it is pulling out of the station. If the t rain leaves the station, then she just cannot hop onto it any more.



To: NAG1 who wrote (67706)5/22/2008 12:43:41 PM
From: Mac Con Ulaidh  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542139
 
I think it is important to separate Obama from the uglier section of his supporters. He has not shown himself to be of the 'ilk' and I hope he won't. If he does, I might end up staying home in November as the sounds I hear from his 'more vocal supporters (not the vocal but those who go at hillary as that creature, such a sweet non-saying of the b-word) are people I would as soon not have in any sort of control in this country... seems to be too nasty an underbelly to it all. I have faith that Obama will prove to be a person who doesn't go in for that sort of thing.

And one reason a person has stayed in a race in the past is that the show of support for them shows where many in the party stand and what matters to them... and their candidate can carry that to convention as pull in setting the party's platform for the fall and the coming years. That's... democratic. I think. Maybe. There is no reason for the race to be shut down now or the basically 1/2 of the voters in the primaries to be ignored. Makes me wonder what the louder voices for her to drop out are worried about. If the confidence is so high... should be no worries.



To: NAG1 who wrote (67706)5/22/2008 3:09:34 PM
From: Cogito  Respond to of 542139
 
>>Otherwise, I see Obama and his supporters coming across as sore winners, pissing off the support Clinton has garnered and making it harder for that bridge to be crossed and the election to be won.<<

Neal -

In my view, Obama himself has been nothing but gracious in his acceptance of Clinton's right to press on.

- Allen