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To: i-node who wrote (386115)	5/24/2008 12:37:07 PM
From: steve harris	Respond to of 1574557

Now, you want to blame Bush for the cheating because HE caught them? How freaking stupid is THAT? About as stupid as Maxine Waters blaming the oil companies for following the democrats' regulations creating the current disaster.

To: i-node who wrote (386115)	5/24/2008 1:53:05 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574557

David, > Now, you want to blame Bush for the cheating because HE caught them? How freaking stupid is THAT? Amazing, isn't it? North Korea cheats, but didn't really cheat because they had to hide it, but when Bush calls them on it, North Korea had complete freedom to cheat, therefore it's Bush's fault North Korea has nukes. An argument so brilliant, they deserve to pat themselves on the back for it. Tenchusatsu

To: i-node who wrote (386115)	5/24/2008 9:18:04 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574557

"The Bush Administration catches NK cheating on the deal and basically voids it in an effort to renegotiate with stronger terms." If that was the hope, then why did they refuse to negotiate with them? How stupid is that? "Now, you want to blame Bush for the cheating because HE caught them?" Straw man. You, like harris, are ignoring the brutal fact that if NK had continued to cheat, they were at least a decade, and probably even more given they couldn't get the device they developed to detonate, from nuclear weapons. And a whole lot of money. Building a centrifuge cascade large enough to get weapons grade uranium is not trivial and it is anything but cheap. Now, 6 years later, they have them. Those are the facts y'all choose to ignore. Dance, sing, wave your hands. But you can't change the facts. The cheating involved a much more problematic path to nuclear weapons. The broken treaty led to a much simpler and cheaper path. One that was under control with the "horrible" treaty you despise so much.

To: i-node who wrote (386115)	5/25/2008 2:22:20 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574557

If the deal was so bad, why didn't the bush change it? Clinton makes a horrible deal with NK which has holes you can drive a nuclear reactor through. The Bush Administration catches NK cheating on the deal and basically voids it in an effort to renegotiate with stronger terms. Now, you want to blame Bush for the cheating because HE caught them? How freaking stupid is THAT? You should learn something from this experience. When you make a lousy deal and allow one of these despots to gain an advantage, that advantage may be permanent, the genie is out of the bottle, and it can be damned hard to put it back.