To: i-node who wrote (386363 ) 5/25/2008 9:06:23 PM From: combjelly Respond to of 1574890 "They cheated on the program. Period, end of story." Then every agreement with NK has been incompetent. No doubt, they are cheating some way on the current one. "Yes, it may (stress MAY) have reduced the number of plutonium weapons they have." No "may" about it, and you know it. We knew where the rods were. We were watching them via satellite. We were watching them in 1994 when we warned them that taking them out would lead to war. We were watching them in 2003 when the trucks pulled up and removed the rods. Bush just sat on his hands. Some time afterwards, he had some bombers moved to Guam and threatened to take out the reactor. Which was pretty stupid and the Koreans knew it. Apparently even Dubya realized it was an empty threat and moved the bombers away later. Talk about weak and ineffectual. "But it allowed them to cheat, creating a uranium enrichment program." This makes no sense. How did it allow them to cheat? "They should not have been allowed to do that, and they should not have been allowed to build even a reduced number of plutonium weapons," That is true. "which was Clinton's, not Bush's, fault." See, this is where logic flies out the window. The only thing Clinton did was to stop them from developing plutonium weapons. Through a combination of monitoring and threats, NK had stopped doing it. The plutonium was produced under Bush I and Bush II voided the treaty that was keeping them from it. How that is Clinton's fault? As far as weak responses, Bush was the weak one. He showed that while Clinton was able to make credible threats, he couldn't. So, they ignored him. And Smirk showed them that it was ok. "It slowed the process but allowed them to have the enrichment program." It stopped the process. Period. The rods were locked down. The reactor was locked down. They had no materials. The enrichment was already covered under the NPT. Which, NK was a signatory until Bush voided the treaty. So, it did not allow them to have an enrichment program. It was already covered. So Bush's reaction to the NPT violation was to void another treaty which allowed them the freedom to develop plutonium weapons. And you want us to believe it was Clinton's fault. Priceless. "I posted the article earlier. It was a WAPO unattributed quote that read exactly as I posted it." Saw that. Pretty dumb of them to pin their hopes on that.