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To: Road Walker who wrote (386435)5/26/2008 10:35:49 AM
From: steve harris  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1575430
 
The fall of conservatism?

I thought a conservative democrat just won in Mississippi, beating the liberal republican?

No wait, "George Packer" - The NewYorker, that says it all...



To: Road Walker who wrote (386435)5/26/2008 1:18:33 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1575430
 
Who knew the Ukraine would be a beacon of hope for those fleeing Putin's Russia. It seems Bush's friend is bringing back the old Soviet Union.

Ukraine beckons to Russians



By MARIA DANILOVA
The Associated Press

KIEV, Ukraine — A gloomy Vladimir Putin wears a czarist crown, clutching a bag full of dollars and a miniature television tower.

Filipp Pishchik says this and similar cartoons, depicting the former president as a corrupt leader who stifles free speech, got him in trouble with authorities and forced him to leave Moscow last year for neighboring Ukraine.

"Ukraine is just great," said the 37-year-old designer and architect. "Here, there is hope."

Since the 2004 Orange Revolution ushered in a vigorous, sometimes chaotic democracy, Ukraine has become an island of freedom and tolerance in an ex-Soviet bloc still dominated by authoritarian regimes. Journalists, political activists, artists and business professionals have flocked here.

In Soviet times, a dissident wanting to live free had only the West to look to. Getting there was hard, the culture alien, the language foreign. Ukraine, however, is an easy visa-free destination for most, Russian is spoken and speech is free.

Rights groups complain that Ukraine is stingy with granting asylum, which guarantees the applicant's right to stay and work indefinitely. But still, the influx vividly illustrates how far the country's path has diverged from that of Russia, which by the time of the Orange Revolution had already begun rolling back democratic reform.

The number of foreigners registered as living in this country of 46 million doubled to nearly 200,000 from 2003 to 2006, according to United Nations statistics; that does not include the unregistered. The number applying for political asylum rose from 1,800 in 2005 to 2,300 last year.

Pishchik said he moved here after architecture magazines stopped publishing his work, longtime clients left him — hinting they were forced to do so by authorities — and he got threats from security officials. The reason, he says, was the cartoons he displayed in galleries and on Web sites.

Today, he lives in a spacious Kiev house loaded with exciting new projects and is married to a Ukrainian artist.

"I tell all my friends that they all will end up here one day," Pishchik says.

Similar stories abound in today's Ukraine.

Yuriy Svirko, a 33-year-old journalist from Belarus, decided he'd had enough of President Alexander Lukashenko's iron-fisted rule after he was accused of attacking a presidential bodyguard and threatened with arrest. (He says it was the guard who attacked him.)

Svirko arrived in Kiev right after the Orange mass movement overturned a fraudulent election and brought reformist Viktor Yushchenko to the presidency.

Ukraine today is awash in competitive elections, noisy street protests and heated debates on TV shows and occasional fist fights in Parliament. Opposition rallies are held under the windows of the president's office, and many have forgotten a time when TV channels were state-controlled.

Savik Shuster had a TV political talk show in Russia until it was closed in 2004 as the Kremlin tightened the screws on media. Now he's in Kiev, hosting a similar program on a Ukrainian channel.

"In Ukraine, freedom of speech still exists," said Shuster, 55. But for Russia today, "openness is like light for a vampire."

During the past two years, Belarusian expatriates have held an annual "Belarusian Spring" festival, featuring fare banned back home — movies, poetry readings, underground rock bands.

This year's festival kicked off with a dozen activists racing down Kiev's main avenue on cross-country skis when snow was nowhere to be seen. It was a poke at Lukashenko, a winter-sports fan who every year makes government officials and professional athletes compete with him in a ski competition, which he always wins.

But rights groups say that while Ukraine is good at welcoming professionals, it is still inhospitable to relatively unskilled political refugees, granting only 3 percent of applications for political asylum, compared with more than 30 percent in neighboring Poland.

Ulugbek Zainabudinov, an Uzbek opposition activist, fled to Russia after a bloody crackdown on an uprising in his country. But Russian authorities began arresting the refugees at the Uzbek government's request, so in 2006 he moved to Ukraine.

That year, Ukraine deported 11 other refugees back to Uzbekistan, drawing harsh criticism from human-rights groups. All the deportees have been sentenced to lengthy prison terms, the groups say.

"The very idea of freedom exists here, and it is developing," said Zainabudinov said. "But I don't feel safe."

His asylum application has been turned down, and, fearing deportation, he is seeking refugee status in Western Europe.

Experts say Ukraine has neither the resources nor the political will to take care of asylum-seekers. Natalia Prokopchuk, of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, said Ukraine also does a poor job of helping asylum-seekers while their cases are being considered.

Natalia Naumenko, spokeswoman for the State Department on Migration, counters that most applicants are illegal migrants caught en route to Western Europe.

Dmytro Groisman, of the Vinnytsia Rights Groups, said the influx of asylum-seekers does not prove Ukraine has developed into a tolerant and democratic society. Instead, he said, refugees simply had nowhere else to go.

"When your apartment is on fire, you would jump anywhere — in the snow, in the water, from the 6th floor," Groisman said.

Olga Kudrina, 22, is one of the lucky few who received political asylum. Sentenced to prison for unfurling a Putin-must-go banner near the Kremlin, she fled to Ukraine and lives with her baby daughter in a tiny apartment in Vinnytsia, 160 miles southwest of Kiev.

Two colleagues from her banned National Bolshevik Party share her apartment.

One of them, Mikhail Gangan, 22, came here to escape arrest for breaking into a government building in Moscow and demanding that Putin step down.

"You live calmer, better here," said Gangan.

Copyright © 2008 The Seattle Times Company

seattletimes.nwsource.com



To: Road Walker who wrote (386435)5/26/2008 1:40:49 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575430
 
Based on this guy's analysis, McCain may just win......we'll have to see.



To: Road Walker who wrote (386435)5/26/2008 1:51:28 PM
From: i-node  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575430
 
...Times columnist David Brooks told me. “McCain, crucially, missed the sixties, and in some ways he’s a pre-sixties figure. He and Obama don’t resonate with the sixties at all.”

Actually, McCain was more present in the 60s than the rest of us. His reality was THE reality; ours was youthful indiscretion.

Where Brooks is wrong is that most of us, today, understand the mistakes of the 60s. Yes, there are some, the William Ayres' of the world, who still don't get it.

But just about everyone I knew who lived through the 60s has a different attitude today. Now, there are Yellow Dogs who will always vote for the most liberal guy in the race -- and I'm not considering those, because we know they constitute that 1/3 just like there are Republicans who are always going to vote for the conservative.

But the others -- those who didn't have that party bias -- most of these people grew up to understand that all wars aren't Vietnam. The Iraq war is nothing like the Vietnam war, and only the totally ignorant would make such a comparison.

Most of us who opposed the Vietnam war understand that it is 40 years later and the 60s were a different time and place.



To: Road Walker who wrote (386435)11/7/2010 4:16:30 PM
From: steve harris3 Recommendations  Respond to of 1575430
 
LOL

a post from the past....

"The Fall of Conservatism"