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To: Lane3 who wrote (68655)5/26/2008 4:22:13 PM
From: Dale Baker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542214
 
Good thing he didn't co-author it with Ann Coulter or they would have had to title it, "Eat S**T and Die, You Commie Homo Islamofascist-Loving Tree Hugging Faggots!" instead.

Calm and balanced is a good start.



To: Lane3 who wrote (68655)5/26/2008 7:20:38 PM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542214
 
Karen, the problem with Lomborg is that he doesn't get his facts right or carry his reasoning very far. One example: he says that melting glaciers will provide more water, and lead to more productive agriculture. Well, yes, maybe, for awhile (if it doesn't lead to more flooding as well). The problem isn't that the glaciers are melting, its that they are in the process of disappearing. Once they disappear, then those rivers and lakes that depend on their annual melting will be left (literally) high and dry, except of course for whatever rain falls. Which is frequently insuffient, and in any case not nearly as dependable as an annual spring/summer melt that is gradual.

Lomborg is a statistician. He's done some reading on climatology, but his books are largely dismissed by scientists. If you're going to read him, at least also read some other books as well.



To: Lane3 who wrote (68655)5/26/2008 7:34:02 PM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542214
 
More on Lomborg:
lomborg-errors.dk
The purpose of this web site is not to present a comprehensive overview of the issues treated by Bjørn Lomborg, but only to point out errors - as the name of the web site indicates.
Why is it essential to point out the errors?
First, because in the handling of errors, Lomborg is not a normal person. A normal person would apologize or be ashamed if concrete, factual errors or misunderstandings were pointed out - and would correct the errors at the first opportunity given. Lomborg does not do that. For example, when The Skeptical Environmentalist was heavily criticized in a review in Nature, Lomborg´s reaction was: "If I really am so wrong, why don´t you just document that?" - and then, when this was documented, he ignored the facts.
Second, because you cannot evaluate Lomborg´s books just by reading them and thinking of what you read. For every piece of information in the books, you have to check if it is true and if the presentation is balanced. If the concrete information given by Lomborg is correct and balanced, then it follows that his main conclusions are also correct. But if the information is flawed, then the main conclusions are biased or wrong. Therefore, in principle, you can only evaluate the books after having checked all footnotes, read all references, and checked alternative sources. This will be a huge task for any reader, but when the errors are described and presented in one place - this web site - then the task becomes manageable.

Specifically on Cool it!:
lomborg-errors.dk