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To: slacker711 who wrote (77333)	5/27/2008 11:14:11 AM
From: engineer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 196660

I don't think you speak from design experience.... I can't see any application where a second power amp would be needed if your trying to do either CDMa or WCDMa in the same band. In most of their chipsets adding DO tot he chipset costs pennies.

To: slacker711 who wrote (77333)	5/27/2008 1:34:25 PM
From: Jim Mullens	Respond to of 196660

Slacker, Re; QCOM v INTC (MIDs , etc), and >> “Adding DO to a device is still going to be a non-trivial decision for a manufacturer. I am sure that Qualcomm adds a price premium to multimode devices and you will still have to add in a 2nd power amp as well. I doubt that the additional BOM is less than $10. “ The QSD8250 supports HSPA and the QSD8650 supports both HSPA and DO.” Thanks for your added insight / thoughts. Good news about the QSD8650 as I wasn’t sure if the Snapdragon platform had a variation that supported both HSPA and DO. I sure miss not the Q not being able to put up all the product detail on their website (Dxxx BRCM !!!). Speculation of course, since we don’t have specific insight to the various prices, but I’m guessing that the Snapdragon solution if priced at ~ $35 would be cost competitive with INTC’s Atom for the MID. I seem to recall (from Anadigics presentations) a power amp cost about $1 (up to 4 reqd in a 3GSM handset depending on the no. of bands). I’m estimating a 3GSM baseband (w/ RF + PM) at $12). MID Market ……………………..QCOM…………….INTC ……………………..EVDO+3GSM…….3GSM only ………………….Snapdragon 8650……Atom Processor…………$35………………..$20 (per INTC- basic model) Baseband………….incl………………..$12 ..(+RF, PM) ..WiFi / Bluetooth…incl………………..$ ?? ..GPS………………incl…………..……$ 4 ?? Power Amp……….$ 1………………….0 (add for EVDO) Total………………$36………………...$36 Yes, as you stated, >> ”… I think cost, size, and power consumption will all be decided advantages for Snapdragon.”. Also, with the 8650 ---“The dual-mode QSD8650 supports HSPA, as well as CDMA2000® 1xEV-DO Rev. B, with full backward compatibility”--- …+ scale advantage is provided to the device mfgs. …………….savings (design, development, mfg, test, marketing, etc) … + time to market advantage