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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (251920)5/28/2008 7:12:52 AM
From: gamesmistress  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793926
 
Obama knows very little, outside perhaps of his speciality niches in law and politics. He certainly doesn't know history.

Sadly, it doesn't seem to be considered necessary in either high school or college, except for crap like Zinn's the People's History. The ignorance on this subject is amazing. But Obama is "highly educated" and so are a lot of his voters, like the students in this articles (posted before, I think, but relevant).

Wednesday, May 07, 2008
About Those "Highly Educated" Voters

Have a few minutes to spare? Go to "Google," type in the phrase "highly educated voters," hit "Search News." Go ahead. We'll wait . . . OK, what do you get? All sorts of stories about Obama voters, and how he attracts the "highly educated." You will get the same from the pundits on network and cable news: lots of blather about how Obama appeals to "highly educated" Americans.

That, of course, is just more MSM "spin doctor" nonsense and we conservatives let them get away with it. We heard the same song when John "Xmas in Cambodia" Kerry ran for President, to wit, the "highly educated" went for Kerry the ignorant ones went for Bush. Every time you hear that phrase, "highly educated" substitute the phrase "attended a lame liberal college or university." That's what we are really talking about. Given the state of higher education in the world, including in our own beloved Republic, spending four years in a typical "liberal arts" institution generally qualifies you for . . . uh . . . well, not much, except, of course, to boast that you are "highly educated." And that just don't mean a whole hill of beans today. Let me explain.

A few years ago, more than I care to mention, I headed a large office at the State Department. I got tasked with hiring a couple of Presidential Management Interns (PMIs). These PMIs come from the elite of the elite student body at the elite of the elite universities. They get hired on a temporary basis and then, usually, get offered prestigious jobs in the government. I was told, in no uncertain terms, that whatever else I did, I had to hire women. So I began to pore over the resumes. My heart sank. I felt inadequate and so, so inferior to these kids. Their resumes, impeccably printed and organized, using dozens of words ending in "-ization," and listing prowess with a dazzling array of complex software programs, described accomplishments beyond my wildest dreams -- especially for when I was the applicants' age!

I thought I should resign and give up my job to one of the "brilliant" child wonders. Ah, naive me. I obviously had spent too much time overseas. I saw resumes as truthful documents actually written by the applicants, applicants, in this case, full of accomplishments and possessed of massive brains throbbing with energy and ideas. As I, however, kept reading, even slow-witted me began to notice oddities. They all began to look the same: the font, the format, the wording, the list of classes and even -- horrors! -- the "accomplishments." I noted this in passing to a cynical old friend (now, alas, departed) who worked in "human resources" (what a great phrase that). He laughed, "You dope! They get classes on how to write resumes! They have professors and computer programs that put these things together for them." (Remember, folks, computers were new things back then.) He said, "Just randomly pick a couple of women students, they're all the same, hire'em, and move on."

I could not do that. I stole a friend's idea and devised "The World War II Test." I invited the applicants for interviews. These PMI wannabes came off as slick and somewhat rude. I noted something among my subjects, a sense of entitlement, they all, to varying degrees, emitted a message along the lines of "Why are you bothering me with this silly interview? I am obviously brilliant. I have a degree from Columbia. I am not going to spend my whole life as you have in this stupid bureaucracy. I just need this to add to my resume. I am in a hurry." I hit them with the test, which consisted of about dozen questions about WWII and its aftermath. I recall a few,

Can you tell me how US troops got into Europe in the first place? When was WWII? (I would accept a variety of answers as long as the applicant could defend the dates as the true start and end of WWII.) What nations comprised the principal Allied and Axis powers? Who was Neville Chamberlain? What he did he do at Munich and with whom? Who was Mussolini? What did he do to Ethiopia? Who was Stalin? Who was Hirohito? What was D-Day? What President ordered the dropping of the atomic bombs and why? Can you name a result of the Conference at Yalta? What was the Berlin Airlift?

Of the 14 or 15 applicants I interviewed, only one got them all right -- the only male in the crowd, by the way. None, zero, zip of the rest got even ONE right. Not a single one. A very irritated applicant asked me, "Do we really need to know this old stuff?" I noted that we worked with NATO and Europe, hence, it was important to know the background that led to the creation of NATO and the then just-concluded Cold War. She stared at me and said, "What does World War II have to do with NATO, the Cold War and Europe?" I promptly offered the job to the male -- oh, the cries from "Human Resources" -- who turned it down for a more lucrative one in the private sector. In the best Foreign Service tradition, I stalled hiring anybody else, let my two-year assignment run out, and left my poor successor to get stuck with one of the clueless ones.

Back to our story. I wonder how many of the "highly educated voters" could pass that WWII test? Or the Vietnam War Test? Or the Cold War test? Or know much about American history? Or understand the economy? And worst of all, the odds are they can't fire a gun, either.

Moral of the story: do not accept the mantra that Obama voters are "highly educated." They just went to "institutions of higher learning," you know, like the one where the Weatherman terrorist, Bill Ayers, teaches.

diplomadic.blogspot.com



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (251920)5/28/2008 11:48:38 AM
From: KLP  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793926
 
Yes, several people are noticing Obama... Pay no attention to the facts

May 28, 2008
Willliam Katz:

powerlineblog.com

Occasional contributor Bill Katz now posts daily at Urgent Agenda, though he saves his longer reflections on life and politics for us. Today he critically examines comparisons between Barack Obama and JFK:

I will claim to have a good memory. It's not a memory, to be sure, that's very effective in the short run. I really can't recall why I walked across this room a few minutes ago. But I can remember details from decades ago, and one of the things I recall well is that small number of presidents, in my lifetime, who excited the nation and became revered.

I'll exclude Franklin D. Roosevelt from the list. I was too young to understand. In fact, only two men in my adult lifetime qualify -- John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan. Yes, Harry Truman's stock rose dramatically after he left office, but excitement was not his game. Dwight D. Eisenhower was highly respected, and regard for his presidency has risen in recent times, but no one ever accused him of exciting anyone. He was revered primarily as the wartime general who organized victory in Europe. The others? Well, try to get excited about Jimmy Carter and see what happens to your pulse rate. I can't deny Lyndon Johnson his achievements, especially in legislation, but no one ever fainted in ecstasy at a Johnson rally.

I mention these things because of the absurd hype surrounding Barack Obama. And the most absurd part of it is the comparison made with John F. Kennedy. The Kennedy family has joined in this, to my dismay. Caroline Kennedy, the president's daughter, has always struck me as sane and reasonable, but she too has drunk from the silver cup and and has come to the altar to worship the divine Barack.

There are, of course, some similarities between Kennedy and Obama, a few not the kind worshippers might want to stress. History will note that both men ran for president in their forties. Both attended Ivy League schools. Both served in the Senate, where both had mediocre records. Both wrote books. And both benefited from the largesse of the Daley machine in Chicago. Obama is a product of that machine. Kennedy may have owed his election in 1960 to creative balloting by Richard Daley's legions. And both are marked by their
ability to inspire youth.

That's pretty much it for the similarities. It's the differences that make the comparison ludicrous. Take, for example, the ability to inspire youth. Among the youth that Kennedy inspired were members of the armed forces. After his assassination, it was common for soldiers to leave their hats at his grave. Kennedy served in war, was wounded and decorated, was widely considered a combat hero. His brother had been killed. Many servicemen
considered him one of their own.

Barack Obama, by contrast, seems to feel no link to the military. He is at the other end of the culture. How else do we explain his strident comments, made while American soldiers are being killed in Iraq, that the war should never have been fought at all? Did he ever consider the effect on soldiers' morale when making that statement? Can you imagine Kennedy making it? It's striking that when Obama's ability to inspire youth is brought up, members of the armed forces aren't even included. Indeed, in his commencement address at Wesleyan University this past Memorial Day weekend, Obama stressed national service, but never mentioned the armed forces once. Incredible.

Kennedy inspired youth actually to do something. I was in the hall in Chicago on November 4, 1960, when he proposed the Peace Corps. Young people did volunteer, and for many it became a key point in their lives. Precisely what are Barack Obama's youthful legions prepared to do, except work for the election of the glorious leader? Has he given them a route? Some details? Some vision of the future? I'd like to see something a bit more substantive than "Yes we can."

Kennedy ran to the right of the Republican Party on defense in 1960. He was a hawk. Barack Obama is running to the left of, well, of everybody. If nominated, he'd be the most dovish major-party candidate since George McGovern in 1972. Just picture Obama descending the stairs of the Marine helicopter on the White House lawn, and trying to salute the Marine standing guard. Would he do it? Would he know how? Would anyone watching believe it? Would these questions be asked of Kennedy?

People note that Obama, like Kennedy, has written books. But Kennedy, in Why England Slept and Profiles in Courage, the latter ghost written by Theodore Sorensen, wrote about history. Obama writes about himself or, in The Audacity of Hope, writes a campaign statement.

Kennedy had a wry, ironic sense of humor. I've never heard Obama say anything even vaguely humorous, and that worries me. Lincoln was known for cracking jokes. So was FDR. Reagan was famous for it. I wonder about a man like Obama who seems to take himself so very, very seriously, and to regard every word as golden.

Kennedy, when he ran in 1960, was widely seen as too inexperienced for the presidency, especially by Eleanor Roosevelt, who questioned his record publicly. Yet, Kennedy's experience towers over Obama's. Kennedy had served in Congress for 13 years. He'd been elected twice to the Senate. True, his record had not been outstanding, and he hadn't been considered a Senate leader. True, he'd had a dalliance with McCarthyism. But he'd also seemed to grow in stature, had a decent war record, and had watched history firsthand as the son of the American ambassador to Britain in the years leading up to World War II.

Obama was elected to the Senate in 2004, and has been running for president ever since. His record is thin. In the one national office he has held, he has been decidedly undistinguished. He clearly lacks Kennedy's sophistication on foreign policy and knowledge of history. I don't recall Kennedy having to fire one adviser after another, or having to explain statement after statement. I do recall that Kennedy had a catastrophic first year in office, despite his background. He blundered at the Bay of Pigs. He was rolled by Khrushchev at the Vienna Conference only months later. I shudder to think of a President Obama sitting down with the dictators he seems so eager to engage. What will he tell them? "I'm the change you've been waiting for"?

Finally, there is an issue of personal quality. Kennedy, with all his failings, with his scandalous private habits, with the arrogance of privilege that sometimes touched him, had an ability to look at himself. He knew he'd failed in that first year. He said so. And he had the dignity and understanding of power to acknowledge publicly what had happened. He was asked at a press conference to assess blame for the Bay of Pigs. Whose fault was it? He replied, "I am the responsible officer of the government."

When something goes wrong in the Obama Crusade, Obama normally attributes it to staff problems. History, if he becomes president, will read his blunders differently.