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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (69100)	5/28/2008 8:34:05 PM
From: spiral3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542148

The unleashed power of the atom has changed everything save our modes of thinking and we thus drift towards unparalleled catastrophe. Albert Einstein. The problem is, someone has to go first.

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (69100)	5/28/2008 9:15:26 PM
From: Bearcatbob	Respond to of 542148

"I'll bet China and India would jump at the proposal to give up nuclear weapons if we gave up nuclear weapons. If we did that then everybody would have to go along. That is not that far fetched." In the interest of not getting banned I cannot characterize the above.

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (69100)	5/28/2008 9:29:37 PM
From: slacker711	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542148

I'll bet China and India would jump at the proposal to give up nuclear weapons if we gave up nuclear weapons. Not likely. I think you greatly underestimate the importance of nuclear weapons to these countries national psyche much less the impossibility of actually proving that the countries have given up their weapons. How could India "know" that Pakistan has given up all of their weapons? The answer is simple. They cant...and thus India would never disarm. Slacker

To: Mary Cluney who wrote (69100)	6/4/2008 12:52:04 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542148

I'll bet China and India would jump at the proposal to give up nuclear weapons if we gave up nuclear weapons. I'd take that bet, except I don't think we will ever give up the nukes. If we had no nukes, China would be concerned about Russia, and India's nukes. India would be concerned about Pakistan's, Pakistan would be concerned about India's and to a tiny extent Israel's, and also the prestige they feel from being the only Islamic country with the bomb. Other countries also feel prestige or a sense of power because they have the bomb. If every country but China gave up the bomb, than China would like the fact that it has a nuclear monopoly. The same would hold for other countries. World wide nuclear disarmament is not utterly impossible, but it goes beyond what would normally be called "far fetched". Its like Bob Barr winning the presidency next election, or maybe even less likely. Its close enough to impossible that its not really worth taking seriously at the moment.