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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (29389)	5/30/2008 8:08:24 PM
From: Ann Corrigan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224748

You sound like an echo of unAS prior to Kerry's defeat...he was absolutely certain that gigolo would win.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (29389)	5/30/2008 8:19:35 PM
From: MJ	Respond to of 224748

Teflon Candidate? Slick? Or is Obama kind of like Mister Cellophane or is it Rev. Wright that is like Mister Cellophane? For 20 years Obama went to church, at least on some Sundays went, and now acknowledges that Wright was like Mister Cellophane. "A Chicago Parody" Suppose you was Obama, wed, and sittin' in a pew Seein'and hearin' Wright for 20 years You'd notice him. Rev. Wright's made of more than air. With all that mass you're bound to see him With all that mass you're bound to hear him Just like Obama You look straight at him You look straight through him And never know he exists Just like Cellophane----just like Cellophane." mj

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (29389)	5/31/2008 8:22:18 AM
From: tonto	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224748

Teflon eventually wears out. Obama has made too many poor decisions regarding his personal life.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (29389)	5/31/2008 1:50:55 PM
From: Hope Praytochange	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224748

The 2004 Sun-Times article noted that "friends and advisers" such as Pfleger, "who has known Obama for the better part of 20 years, help him keep his (moral) compass, he (Obama) says." Based on Pfleger's remarks, either he or Obama, or both, have, uh, lost their bearings. Pfleger has had a working relationship with Obama since the late 1980s. As noted, he was one of Obama's spiritual mentors. Between 1995 and 2001, Pfleger contributed a total of $1,500 to Obama's various political campaigns. This includes a $200 donation in April 2001, three months after Obama, still an Illinois state senator, helped obtain $225,000 in grants for St. Sabina programs. In 2000, Obama secured a $100,000 earmark for the ARK Community Center, attached to St. Sabina. Render unto Caesar.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (29389)	5/31/2008 1:52:08 PM
From: Hope Praytochange	Respond to of 224748

Pfleger, who leads a mostly black parish and has warmly embraced what is called black liberation theology, was a member of "Catholics for Obama." A glowing endorsement of the former state senator appeared on Obama's campaign Web site. Pfleger is a regular guest at Trinity. The June-July issue of Wright's "Trumpet" magazine described him as "Afrocentric to the core." This is the same magazine that printed an op-ed by a Hamas supporter and honored Nation of Islam leader Farrakhan. Pfleger calls Farrakhan a "friend" who "is a great man who I have great respect for, who has done an awful lot for people in this country." Does Obama have any spiritual mentors who don't hate America and think all its people are racists? We don't believe in guilt by association, but these are the only associations he seems to have. Obama cannot claim he was ignorant of Pfleger's views as he claimed to be of Wright's. He cannot claim to have sat in the pews of Trinity United, bringing his children there, and heard none of this. Both his judgment and his honesty, even his true beliefs, are in question. If the Rev. Pfleger helps open the public's eyes about the enigmatic Obama, he will have also done an awful lot for the people of this country.